March 15, 2026

Episode 9: "Are You Gonna Be Nicer To Me?" Rachel Parcell Returns

Episode 9: "Are You Gonna Be Nicer To Me?" Rachel Parcell Returns

Send a text Rachel Parcell returns to the courtroom for round two. This week: life updates (Emily's surgery, Hawaii recap, the legendary farting text from Dick Hunsaker), sister and brother-in-law rankings, an RBF showdown, why Rachel will never do reality TV, and the debut of "Exhibit A" — where Rachel defends her cringiest old blog posts. Are we still fighting? Listen to find out. New episodes weekly. Follow us on Instagram. Subscribe to the Sunday newsletter. Legallyfriends.com Legallyfrie...

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Rachel Parcell returns to the courtroom for round two. This week: life updates (Emily's surgery, Hawaii recap, the legendary farting text from Dick Hunsaker), sister and brother-in-law rankings, an RBF showdown, why Rachel will never do reality TV, and the debut of "Exhibit A" — where Rachel defends her cringiest old blog posts. Are we still fighting? Listen to find out.

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Welcome back to Legally Friends.

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Today we have a very special repeat offender, I guess you could call in the courtroom since it's like legal stuff.

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Rachel Parcel is back for round two.

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I'm back.

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Welcome back.

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Thank you.

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Zach, are you gonna be nicer to me this time?

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You know, we'll have to wait and see.

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But yes, I'm gonna be like this.

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Yes, we'll we'll we'll see how it goes.

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You know, we'll see how it goes.

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Uh, but we have life updates today, some sister drama, brother-in-law rankings, sister-in-law rankings, a brand new segment that I created just for Rachel.

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What is it?

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I'm calling it exhibit A.

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Because legal terms, you'll see.

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I think you'll like it.

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It's it's good.

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You'll like it.

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All right.

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Um, so she's gonna have to, in a way, defend some of her past internet stuff.

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But did you get on my Reddit page?

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No, no, no, no, no.

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None of that.

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Okay.

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No, I don't ever go on there.

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This is all like old blog posts, old pictures.

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Oh, we're terrified.

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All right, so let's get into it.

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Opening statements.

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This is where we give each other live updates, what's going on.

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So let's start with Amy.

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You're moving.

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Oh, you also babysat my boys for three days, which was greatly appreciated.

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Thank you.

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We had the best time.

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I missed them so much when they were with your parents.

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I just like felt empty without them.

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They they had a fun time with you, that is for sure.

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They're just the best little boys.

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We had a fun time, and then um, well, Emily got her big surgery.

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So I have been nurse Amy, I have been mother Amy, Nanny Amy.

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Well, that's what I mean by mother.

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I'm their mother because their mother is like laid up in bed.

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I thought you were Emily's mother.

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Uh no.

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No, I'm her nurse and I'm her children's mother.

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So I've been running all her carpools.

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I was supposed to move yesterday, and I had to reschedule the movers because I don't know what I expected with Emily's surgery.

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I was like, oh, she'll be fine by Wednesday.

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No, no.

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Oh no, no.

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In fact, it's worse today.

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It's the worst it's ever been.

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When she FaceTimed me this morning, it was I thought I was like still asleep, and there was like a demon visiting me in my nightmares.

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It's really bad.

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I feel she posted it, but so that's what I said.

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Terrified of her.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I don't blame him.

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I'm terrified.

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We went over there for dinner last night, and truly he cried.

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He couldn't even look at her.

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He was either hiding in Michael's chest or he was going like this.

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Couldn't look at her.

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I went to Costco because we were buying moving stuff, and so I saw the fair life drinks that she had specially requested.

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So I bought them, but I couldn't take him to her.

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I pulled up to the side of the house, had Megan run in because I I can't see her.

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Like, I I Zach gets real like he'll like legit pass out.

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Yeah, I can't do it.

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I saw those pictures, uh, that was insane.

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Did you see the video of the surgery?

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I refuse to watch it.

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I'm not watching that.

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She sent it like we want to watch it.

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Just nonchalant in the family text.

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Yeah.

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Sorry, I don't want to see your head being filleted open.

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Oh.

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Wait, who sent wait, who's in there taking the video?

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I was confused.

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The doctor.

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The doctor.

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Or like his like his nurse.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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I guess because she was asking for that.

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That makes sense.

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Because she wanted someone in there.

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Because I remember she was saying she wanted SJ to come in or something and take video.

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She wanted, no, she wanted Ariel in there because Ariel's in the school.

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Yeah, she's in nursing school.

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But then it was Ariel spring break, and she had already planned something, so she couldn't go in.

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So he was like, I'll take, I'll have one of my nurses take the videos.

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They cut her eye right here, and then they like pull it back, and then they like hold it like down here.

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No, you can see this.

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Yeah.

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It looks like it looks like she's missing her eyeball.

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And then they section her hair off into like squares almost.

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And that's where they cut.

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They like cut right here for the eyebrow lift.

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Oh.

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But they like have to like hold it open, and so you can like see like the inside of her head.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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We're done.

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We're good.

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Thank you.

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Moving on.

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Um, let's just say that's gonna be a long recovery.

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Uh yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm her nanny today.

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I have to go run all her kids' carpal's today.

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Yeah, she called me and I said, sorry, I have a horsey lesson that I can't miss because I have a rodeo next week.

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Well, not a rodeo.

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She called me this she called me this morning and was like, I need you to take my kids.

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Yeah.

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And I have to dance mom and up tonight because Capri has a competition.

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True.

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Well, you guys are very nice.

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You're being you're you're helping her.

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So that's nice too.

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You'll be blessed.

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You're not going to the competition tonight.

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Who, me?

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Yeah.

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Well, here's the thing.

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I have a dinner tonight with a bunch of girlfriends, which I want to go.

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However, I don't think I can go.

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I think I have to cancel because I'll miss Capri and Capri will be mapped.

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So I think I'm gonna have to cancel my girls' dinner.

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No, she doesn't compete till Saturday night.

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Oh, gotta so yeah, I think I'm gonna have to cancel that dinner.

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I was hoping that we were gonna be in Dance Mom Hell together again.

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No, mm-mm.

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No, I don't have that tonight.

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Dang.

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You're so low.

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But I will I will be there to support and yell at her to point her toes.

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So basically, Amy's being the nanny, the nurse, the mother to my kids when we were gone.

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You've been doing a lot.

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You've been busy.

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She's a busy gal.

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She's too busy to date.

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Maybe this is the issue.

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Yeah, we'll leave it there.

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We'll leave it there.

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Um, my update though, I was in Hawaii having a great time.

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How was it?

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Honestly, probably one of my favorite trips ever.

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It was so fun.

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It wasn't exactly a trip I think you two would enjoy.

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No, you were doing a lot of activities.

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You guys were like being tourists to the 10th degree.

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It was the best.

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Which isn't a bad thing.

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My thing is I just want to lay by the pool.

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I don't want to go do touristy things.

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See, like I respect that.

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I I people like to do it their own way.

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But I got there and we had planned like a couple things, but I was laying at the pool, staring at my phone, actually at the beach, staring at my phone, and I'm like, what are we doing?

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We're in Hawaii looking at our phone.

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That felt off to me.

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I was like, well, let's go do some more things.

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And and Megan wanted to do them too.

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It wasn't just me like pulling her to go do things.

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Like she she definitely wanted to do them.

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So we did a luau.

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We went surfing.

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I went surfing, she did not.

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We went fishing, deep sea fishing, horseback riding, kayaking.

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We did it all.

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How was the fish?

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Did it taste good?

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Luckily, the chef was amazing.

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So he so what happened is we caught a tuna when we were out deep sea fishing.

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And the hotel said before we left that if we catch something, we can take it back and they'll cook it for us.

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And so I catch this fish, and then we're walking.

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I'm like walking into the lobby of this Ritz Carlton with a little bit.

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And like, here's my fish.

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And like the blood of it is like coming through my hands.

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It's dripping.

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I'm surprised that you could like do that because you don't like blood.

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It's different.

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It's different.

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Oh, because it's a fish, not a human.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And so then I went and like met with the chef, talk and talked to him, and then we came back that night.

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And he prepared, he like came out and tell told us what he's gonna do when he's gonna prepare.

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And it was honestly.

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Was it fishy?

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Not at all.

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Okay.

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No.

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It honestly Megan said it tasted more like chicken than fish.

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It was so good.

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Oh, tuna of the sea.

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Exactly.

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Chicken of the sea.

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Do you know what that's from?

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No.

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Uh Jessica Sem.

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Jessica Sem Silly Wets.

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Yeah.

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How did Megan survive not being with the boys?

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She was great.

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She got a little mad at my parents, though.

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Because my oh, I I didn't know this.

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Not necessarily at my mom, but my dad.

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So with you all.

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Oh, Dick.

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You guys will FaceTime and like send tons of pictures and really like keep us updated on what's going on.

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And my dad is more of out of sight, out of mind, so it doesn't bug the boys, and so they don't get worked up that we're not there.

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And he does not like us FaceTiming.

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He thinks it gets them worked up and causes them to act out a little bit more, which I can understand.

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So then it was her birthday, and he wasn't gonna let us FaceTime on Megan's birthday.

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He is so rigid.

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And uh then I after like 20 texts back and forth, then he finally gave in.

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And I think my mom yelled at him to like make him FaceTime.

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And so then we FaceTime, but that was still on Thursday, and we didn't leave till Monday.

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And then after that, he sent me this like paragraph text like, no more FaceTiming, you're not doing anymore.

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We'll text you, we'll send you pictures, but that's it.

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No more FaceTiming.

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I was like, oh my gosh.

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And so we didn't talk to him the rest of the time.

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Can you please tell the story of when your dad texted you?

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What one?

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When you farted in the car.

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This is like my favorite story ever.

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I mean, it's probably not too funny to anyone because they don't know him, but like we've been married for like two or three years, maybe like three years.

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And we were living in Lehigh, I think.

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And um, so Megan and I would drive up to my parents for sometime Sunday dinner or something.

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So I remember we had gone up there and we pull up, and I think my dad was outside, and so then I guess I had farted right before we pulled up.

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And so Megan gets out and she's like, Oh, you stink so bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And my dad's just like disgusted at me.

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Like, are you serious?

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You you do that in front of your wife and all this stuff.

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And so he didn't make like too big of a deal at that time, but then like a couple days later, I don't, it was just out of the blue.

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I get a text from him calling him saying, You can't be doing that in front of your wife.

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You're such a disrespectful little ass, or something like that.

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Like, don't do that ever again.

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I don't want to hear about you ever farting in front of Megan again.

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And every in anyway, he sent like three texts about me uh being incredibly disrespectful and disgusting for farting in front of Megan.

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Well, Megan sent a screenshot of the text on the family text.

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This was like years ago.

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Yeah, I wish I had it.

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With no context, and it says from Dick Hensaker, and all it says is like, you are like, How dare you disrespectful?

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You are like like gross or something like that.

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And not even gross, like the word he used was.

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Yeah, so I wish I remembered it.

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And I was like, What did he do?

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And then when Megan told me it's because you farted, I was like, Oh my gosh.

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Yeah, I was confused at the beginning too because there was no didn't say that I farted in the text, it was just like how disrespectful and gross I am.

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I was so confused, like, what would I do?

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You know the TikTok.

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Oh, and you texted him and you were like, What did I do?

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And he goes, You know what you did.

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Oh, yeah, that's right.

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He did do that.

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You know the TikTok trend that it's like sometimes you have to like just read the text from your mom or your dad and move on with your day.

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We should we should do that next time.

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That's funny.

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I bet there's be some good ones from Shannon in there, too.

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Oh, oh yeah, for sure.

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Anyway, enough about me, Rachel.

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What's new with you since the last time you came on the podcast?

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40 was very excited to see Deany and Wesie, and they had so so much fun playing together.

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He actually asked to play with Dean yesterday, and I was like, 40, they left, and he was very sad.

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Oh Dean would love that.

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He was sad.

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Um, let's see.

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Since the last time I was on the podcast, I think we've had two dance competitions and when was I on the podcast?

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It was like a month ago.

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I think I also added a new bag to my collection since the last time we talked.

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What bag did you add?

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Show us, give us a little sneak peek.

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This is Lizzie.

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Lizzie?

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Lizzie McGuire?

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Because the handle is a lizard.

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Oh my gosh.

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So that's what I've been up to since the podcast.

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Dance moming, and I got a new Kelly.

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I need to ask about the Birkin bags.

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Like, what is are you gonna pass those down to your kids or are you gonna eventually like sell them?

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I'm passing them down.

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Actually, well, no, that's a lie.

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Actually, right after this podcast, I'm running down to Fashion File.

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Fashion File just opened in Silicon Slopes in Utah.

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So I'm running down to sell them that gold, Mini Kelly.

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Whoever follows me on Instagram, you know what I'm talking about.

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I did my colors on Chat GBT.

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Airmez gold does not look good on a deep winter.

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So I'm selling that one.

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Thanks, chat.

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How much are you selling at all?

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All of these bags, I'm not saying all of these bags, I will pass.

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Die with I'm a bag, I collect bags.

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I am a bag collector.

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I'm also a collector.

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And not to your level.

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I'm not a collector to your level, but like I remember the first designer bag I ever bought was the um Celine luggage toe.

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Is that what it's called?

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Which that's a collector's item.

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I still have mine.

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Yes, and so like I bought it like kind of like the downward of the peak.

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And then it kind of went out of style.

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And everyone's like, sell it, sell it, and now it's coming back.

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And that's why you don't sell your bags.

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Yep.

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I mean, I yeah, I can't be a hater.

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It's just like watches, like those all appreciate.

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Um, and then what else?

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That's really it.

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Like, I haven't been up to a whole lot.

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Well, did we end our fight?

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People want to know.

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Are you guys still beefing?

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Are we?

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I don't know because I was talking to Megan.

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I was venting to Megan about Zach and like how he hurt my feelings.

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You were in the background, I could hear you.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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And Zach goes, This is crazy, this is just crazy.

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Okay and like walked out.

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And so that's the last we spoke of it.

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And then I saw you at Sunday dinner and I was like, Hi, and you didn't say anything.

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Whoa, what you did not say hi to me.

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You know, that was not at me.

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I wasn't even facing anyone, I was facing away on my computer.

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Yeah, you were sitting on your laptop, and I walked in and I was like, Hi.

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I thought you were, I didn't think you wouldn't ever come in and greet me.

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You said hi to everybody.

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You weren't like, hello, Zach, how are you?

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You said you walked in and you were like, hey, like to everybody.

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Zach could not be bothered to like look up from his computer and say hi.

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And I was like, Oh, okay, he's still mad at me.

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Okay, in my defense, I don't think the focus of when you walk in is for Zach to turn and tell you to say hi.

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So I was just like, she's saying hi to everybody.

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It's not like she's looking for a hi from me.

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Zach, I'm gonna say something too, which actually I'm bad at this too.

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You're not good at saying hi when you walk in to places.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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You don't say hi.

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I I hate that.

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I don't either.

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I actually don't either, so but I've noticed.

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But I I do wish I was one of those people that walked in and was like, and like, how's it going?

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Yeah, yeah, I can't do that.

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I I'm not like that.

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Luckily, I married someone who's like that, but yeah, I'm not, I I don't know.

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So that night, that's after Sunday dinner, when you were just, I think you were over there trying to get ready, every everyone ready to go, and Megan comes over to me and she's like, please give Rachel a hug goodbye.

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And she thought it was the funniest thing.

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Right, she was over there literally crying at her own like idea of me giving you a hugby.

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So I was just saying, for the record, no, he did not.

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I don't think he said one word to me.

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That is not true.

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Okay, KK.

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You are also sleeping most of the time.

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Yeah, it's called a Sunday nap.

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I sleep every Sunday.

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I know.

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Good for you.

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I'm just saying, I will say, if you came up to me and like gave me a hug, I would be like, What are you doing?

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Yeah, no, like I'm so glad you didn't hug me.

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Like, we're not huggers.

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Yeah, no.

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No, I'm not a hugger either.

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So I can hug it.

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Especially with each other, it's like, ugh, don't touch me.

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But yeah, no.

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Actually, I'm gonna transition to this and then we'll we'll finish our conversation about the fight and how it ended.

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Okay, but if someone, if someone were to ask me and said, are is your fight over?

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Are you and Zach still mad at each other?

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I would say, no, I think we like talked it out.

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Yeah, we definitely had some calls.

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We had we had that long call, we got everything out on the table, and it was good.

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I said, Zach, you are an ass.

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And I apologize.

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You were an ass to me on the podcast, and I'm too busy to take time out of my day to come on a podcast and to have you get mad at me.

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And what did I say?

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I said, I apologize.

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Yeah, I did apologize for that.

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Yes, you said I didn't realize I was gonna get so heated.

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That was not my plan.

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I did not have that objective.

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I think what we need to go back, the root of the problem.

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This is what happened the night before, Amy.

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You were here.

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I was in the tub, Amy was sitting on my little bench and I was talking to Megan, and I was like, I don't even remember like what happened.

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What happened?

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We talked about it, and then I think that made Megan mad, and then she went and vented to you, and so then you were mad.

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So then it started.

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It like brought back all those things because it wasn't just what happened there.

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There was also stuff with Megan, like nursing, and like there were so many little things, and so then Megan came back and vented that all to me again, and then that was like, oh, I remember all that.

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I like you know, had those feelings again a little bit, and so then when we started talking about it again, it was kind of like I I became defensive, very defensive about it.

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And so I apologize, I admit I was I was an idiot.

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I didn't, I took it too far.

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I'm actually shocked I'm back on this podcast.

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Wow, me too, me too.

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I honestly, when when we were doing that, I looked down at the end button and almost ended the podcast like midweek like deleted it, and just and finished it.

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Oh my gosh, you're so dramatic.

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So dramatic.

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You're more dramatic than the girls, Zach.

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Come on.

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Thank you, thank you.

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It's true.

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I and I always say that.

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Well, can I just say yesterday I was minding my own business, eating chocolate chips and drinking my diet coke, and I get an incoming call from Zach, and I knew I knew I was like, he has come crawling back.

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He needs my services, he needs me to go on that damn podcast because Emily looks like Frankenstein.

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I mean, that's true.

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But remember at dinner, Megan's dinner, we were all talking, and Emily said, Rachel, you're filling in for me, okay?

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That is true.

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What did I say?

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Did I say that?

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You said yes, yeah.

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Oh, I did.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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So that's why I called you.

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We had Michael on standby in case you said no.

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Yes.

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And I think he was actually excited.

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He was like getting he was like thinking of all these stories he could tell.

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Oh, well, we'll bring them on next week.

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Yeah, I would love to see that.

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Wait, you guys really thought I would say no?

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Well, I just didn't know.

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If you had time, yeah, because like I thought Isla was also doing her solo today, so I was like, oh, she might be full-blown Miss Rachel.

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It's dance, dance time, you know.

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So you never know.

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Dance, it's like mental warfare, but no, she's not till Saturday.

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That's good.

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That's good.

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So let's get to um sister rankings, and then that'll complete the whole fight.

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I will freak out depending on how this goes.

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Go.

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But then Amy's doing brother-in-law rankings after, so I might freak out about that too.

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So I'm so curious to hear that.

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So in third place is Frankenstein herself, Emily.

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She that face deserves to be last this week.

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It's not even Frankenstein.

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That's like an insult to Frankenstein.

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It's Michael calls her the exorcist.

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It is so bad.

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And she put that out there for everyone to see.

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That's what I said.

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I was like, you have no shame.

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Like, that is so I can't believe you're posting that.

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This is the good thing about Emily, and sometimes to a fault, she has no shame, and she's way too transparent.

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But you know what?

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That's why people love her.

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God loves her.

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We were doing the sister rankings.

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Um, I had said the scary witch hunt person was third, and um now we're moving to second.

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Second place, this one's hard, okay?

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This one's very hard.

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Huh.

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How is this hard, Zach?

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This should be a no-brainer.

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Okay, I was actually gonna say, I'm gonna leave second place empty.

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Can I do a tie for first?

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No.

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Okay, you have to hear my side though, because Amy did watch my kids, but you were the only one on time at Megan's dinner.

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Are you kidding me?

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Don't even give that picture.

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Amy, you are so late.

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Sorry, I thought you were talking about today.

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No, no, no.

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She was pretty much on time.

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She wasn't late.

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Like a couple minutes.

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Rachel's on time.

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So I'm gonna say this.

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For this episode, I'm going to say Amy is second place.

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Amy, I am very appreciative for you watching my kids.

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I will give it to you.

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Me and Emily were like 45 minutes late, but we were stuck in traffic at a dead stop.

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Let me give everyone some context.

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I had set this up two weeks ago.

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We were going to dinner for Megan's birthday before we left for Hawaii.

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And I Megan loves to have dinner with the whole family for her birthday.

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Like that is her favorite thing.

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So I didn't tell her I was setting it up.

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I wanted to be a full surprise.

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And so I set up a Capitol Grill and I scheduled it for I think the reservation is at 6 p.m.

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And so Mike the actually last week we were talking about this.

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How Michael had texted Rachel saying, start getting ready now when it was 11 a.m.

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in the morning and dinner was at six.

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And so we had been texting about this all day long.

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Everyone knew, but I did make one mistake, and that was I did not have Drew and Taylor.

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Well, Amy set up the group text, but Drew and Taylor were not in the group text.

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So they did not know the reservation time.

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We were texting the whole day, telling everyone to get ready, be on time, 6 p.m.

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I get Megan and I tell her we're going to dinner with my best friend.

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And it was going, we're going to a sopher or something.

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And so I that was the only way I could get her like kind of ready without giving it away.

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And so she's kind of like fishy at the beginning, like, why are we going to dinner now?

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But like that's fine.

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We haven't seen him in a while.

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It'll be fun.

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And so then we drop off the kids at my parents' house.

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And I was like, as we're leaving, I was like, well, he just canceled on us.

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He just said his baby's not feeling good.

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So I guess it's kind of us tonight.

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So I was like, I'll take you to somewhere special.

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And so we go down, I go to Capitol Grill, we walk in at 5 55.

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Like we're coming out of the whatever the parking garage.

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I get a text from Amy.

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Stall, we're so late.

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We're we're we're not even like we're just leaving now.

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And I was like, are you freaking kidding me?

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It is 5.55.

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You guys hadn't even left.

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They did not leave until the time they were supposed to be there.

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Now this is the same thing.

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In my defense, in my defense, and Rachel knows that this is true.

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I was ready to go with Rachel.

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I was gonna ride with Rachel and Drew, and Emily called me and was like, please ride with me.

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I don't want to drive up alone.

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Taylor's in Draper, he's riding up with mom and dad.

00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:47.839
Please drive with me.

00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:49.839
So I was like, oh my gosh, fine.

00:24:50.000 --> 00:25:00.720
So then I get Emily comes and picks me up from Rachel's house, and she's like, Oh, by the way, we have to pick up London, then we have to drop off Capri, then we have to drop off Cannon, and then we have to take great into basketball.

00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.039
And I was like, What the hell is wrong with you?

00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.680
You guys spent like 40 minutes running all of her kids everywhere.

00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:10.880
And then Drew and I and then we hit traffic.

00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:13.759
Well, Drew and I hit the same traffic tweet.

00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:16.400
We just left on time, so we got there on time.

00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:21.039
Yeah, so anyway, I texted, I was like, all right, I have a plan.

00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.519
And so I went in there and said, Can I just get a table for two?

00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:31.839
And went and sat down with Megan, and we walked right by the table.

00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.480
And for some reason, Megan didn't see them.

00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:50.640
And so then we sat down and we're sitting in like there's like a little uh just two-person table booth type of things, and the couple behind us, uh, that was closer to where your family was sitting, um, all of a sudden the guy's like, Oh, whose birthday is it?

00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:54.160
Because our waiter had said, Oh, welcome in for her birthday or something.

00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:59.440
And Megan literally like turns around and looks straight at your dad.

00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:02.000
Like, I don't know how she didn't see him.

00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.240
Like, they made eye contact.

00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:12.240
I guess they didn't, but literally, it was this guy in the booth and your dad, like right back here on the table.

00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:13.920
Like, it was insane.

00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.480
So, anyway, Megan didn't see them.

00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.799
The whole idea was I sat at the table with Megan.

00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:28.960
We ordered appetizers and had a Diet Coke, and I was being super slow to order and had to stall for 45 minutes until Amy and Emily came.

00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:35.359
That's why Emily actually deserves to be a third place even more than the Yeah, me and Emily deserve to be tied and last place.

00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:38.799
Yeah, but no, but then you watched my kids for three days.

00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:41.200
It was disrespectful.

00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.319
Emily's the one that called me chronically late.

00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:48.240
Like she gave me that title, and then she goes and does this.

00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.359
Yeah, no, she's chronically late too.

00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:52.799
Don't let her fool you.

00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:58.880
Also, Zach, I would like to be recognized that I was the only person who brought a birthday gift.

00:26:59.119 --> 00:26:59.599
That was true.

00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:00.400
That was very nice.

00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:01.279
She loved me.

00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:04.720
So not only you were on time.

00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:05.759
Yeah.

00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:07.920
And I brought a gift.

00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:10.960
Yeah, it was impressive.

00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:12.160
It's true.

00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:17.680
My gift was that I was watching her children, so very so kind.

00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.480
Um and what else I gonna add?

00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:22.240
I just forgot what I was gonna say.

00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:27.759
Anyway, so Rachel comes out of first place for this week, and she's on the podcast again.

00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:29.359
So I'll allow it.

00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:36.160
I have really crawled my way out of a deep dark hole that I never thought I would come out of.

00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.039
I mean, wasn't it like roll the tape?

00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:44.079
Zach said I would never be in first place, and within a month, I'm in first place.

00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.640
You always eat your words, Zach.

00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:50.799
I hate when you guys say that, and you guys say it so much to me.

00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:51.599
I know.

00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:52.559
I love it.

00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:54.640
So, my brother-in-law rankings.

00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:55.599
This one's tough.

00:27:55.759 --> 00:28:00.799
This one's a tough one because like I haven't seen Drew in like I don't even know how many weeks.

00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.759
I haven't talked to him either, so he's probably last.

00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:05.920
Well, I'm not last.

00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.799
No, I think you're second and Taylor's first.

00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.160
I just feel like Taylor's never not going to be first.

00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:21.119
Yeah, here's the thing: me and Taylor have really been in the trenches together this whole week because we're both taking care of Emily.

00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:31.440
So, like, we just hang out all day together, and then like I go take care of his kids while he's working, and I like sit in his office in the fire and I listen to his calls.

00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:36.880
And when he's not on calls, we talk about books and we talk about basketball.

00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:38.559
So we're just like really bonded.

00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:40.720
Me and me and Taylor are like really good friends.

00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:45.920
I've known him since I was like seven years old, which is actually like really crazy to think about.

00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:46.559
I'll take that.

00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:47.519
That's my ranking.

00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:48.799
I'll take my second place.

00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:50.480
That's better than last place.

00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:51.279
It's true.

00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:52.559
Sorry, Drew.

00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.599
Maybe he can crawl his way up like Rachel did.

00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:58.079
No! And Drew should be first.

00:28:58.160 --> 00:28:59.279
He is so helpful.

00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:00.559
He is so helpful.

00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:02.319
That's why he was second last week.

00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:03.200
That's true.

00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:04.000
Mm-hmm.

00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:05.200
All right.

00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:11.839
Next, we had some questions submitted for just Rachel.

00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:12.799
Again?

00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.599
Yes, everyone always has questions for you.

00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:21.920
The biggest one was about you missing Christmas and going to where?

00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:23.039
Deer Valley?

00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:24.480
I don't even remember.

00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:32.079
All I remember, Emily and I got into a fight a few days, I think it was Christmas, a few days before Christmas.

00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:37.440
And I was like, we're like, I'm not spending my boundaries are up.

00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.119
I'm not spending Christmas.

00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:42.400
And I stuck to those boundaries and we ran away to Deer Valley.

00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:43.680
I think this was a problem.

00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:47.759
We were building our house and we were living with Michael and Shannon.

00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:58.799
And so I think like the thought of just like getting away and just being with our little family because we were with my parents and everyone all the time sounded kind of amazing.

00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:02.640
And then when Emily and I got into a fight, it like tipped me over the edge and I was like, peace.

00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.720
And we went to the montage and it was so fun.

00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:06.880
What do we think the fight was about?

00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.119
I'm trying to think and I don't know.

00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:10.240
And this is the thing.

00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:14.720
Emily and I talked about it and worked it out, and we didn't sweep it under the rug.

00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.039
And now we can't remember.

00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:25.359
But had we not talked about it and held on to it, I would probably still know every detail because I never was able to get it out and like move on.

00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:26.240
Does that make sense?

00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.079
Are you talking to someone on this podcast?

00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:29.680
Is that like a shot at me?

00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:32.240
No, no, it really wasn't.

00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:32.880
Oh, okay.

00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:34.960
Well, it sounded like it was directed right at me.

00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:35.599
Okay.

00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:36.559
There you go.

00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:38.240
Um, okay.

00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:41.359
Other questions for Rachel.

00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.240
Why have you never done a reality TV show?

00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.440
This is why I'll never do a reality TV show.

00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.440
I have an amazing life.

00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:58.079
I love my life from the small taste of internet fame that I've tasted.

00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.920
I have learned it is a double-edged sword.

00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:05.680
The higher you climb, the more you fall.

00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:14.160
And I just I don't want to have my life out there in the spotlight like that.

00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:16.319
And it worries me for my kids.

00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.599
I don't, my husband and I have an amazing marriage.

00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.440
I don't want to put that out.

00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.359
Like, I just am not willing to put my life out there for other people.

00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:31.119
And I've always thought to myself, the Kardashians have made their billions.

00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:32.640
Their billions.

00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.039
Why do they still put themselves out there?

00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:41.920
There are some people who want to be famous, there's some people who want to be rich, and there's some people who want to be rich and famous.

00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:44.400
I don't need to be famous.

00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.720
Like, do I want to be successful?

00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:52.640
Yes, to feed my shopping addiction, but I do not need to be famous.

00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:57.279
Like, I don't want the internet doing deep dives into my life.

00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:58.960
I love watching Secret Lives.

00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:06.240
When I was getting ready, I had it on my mirror, and I will watch them, but I don't want other people watching my life.

00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:17.039
I just feel like I have I love my life, and I feel like God has put certain roadblocks in my life to not do reality television.

00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.000
And I've listened to that and I'm so grateful.

00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.079
I don't have anything to add to that.

00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:23.279
I think that's a fair thing.

00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:28.400
Okay, so when when we were younger, like in high school, I'd be like, Mom, like, why doesn't this guy like me?

00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:29.200
Like, I don't get it.

00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:30.480
Like, does he not think I'm cute?

00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.319
Does he not think I'm this, that?

00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.440
And she goes, honey, you are so beautiful.

00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:41.279
God has just put a block in his mind because he is saving you for someone amazing.

00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:46.559
And so he doesn't like you because God has like given him like this thought.

00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:48.640
And I genuinely believed it.

00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:54.559
It probably was because they were like, this chick's weird and wear high heels every day and wears too much makeup and weird clothes.

00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:56.319
But I believed that.

00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:10.640
And I believe just like then, like I feel, and maybe this is just like myself making things up, but I feel like God has blocked things to protect me and my family.

00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:14.319
And I think he knows me, and he knows like how I internalize things.

00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.079
He know I couldn't handle it.

00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:18.880
And so I feel like God's protected me.

00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:20.880
I Megan says that same thing.

00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:24.240
So I think your mom did a good job of kind of teaching you guys that.

00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.920
Um, because I I Shannon, Shannon still tells me that.

00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:33.200
Whenever I get sad about a boy, someone ghosted me, and I'm like, why?

00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:33.920
Like, why?

00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:34.880
Like, is it me?

00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:36.559
Like, who's the common denominator?

00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:36.960
It's me.

00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:43.599
And she's like, no, no, God, he just put a little mind block because that's not your person.

00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:44.640
It's not for you.

00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:45.920
And he's protecting it.

00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:48.000
It's gonna be even greater.

00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:48.799
Yep.

00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:55.839
So in our family, in our family, all roads lead back to Jesus and Heavenly Father.

00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:57.200
All roads.

00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.319
Megan and I have been talking about houses for Dallas.

00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:08.559
And there's a house that's been on the market in an area that we like for I don't know, longer than most houses are in in South Lake.

00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.960
And I'm just like, I don't like the house.

00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:12.400
I don't, I mean, I don't love it.

00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:13.760
Megan really likes it.

00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:17.039
And I'm like, there's gotta be something wrong with it because it's been on the house.

00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:18.159
I'm on the market for so long.

00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:25.519
And Megan keeps saying, no, it's because Heavenly Father has put up blinders for everybody else, and it's supposed to be saved for us.

00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:29.679
And I'm just like, uh, okay, like I can't argue that.

00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:31.599
She is she is so right.

00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:33.679
Shannon has trained her well.

00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:35.119
Okay, give me another question.

00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:36.239
Throw one at me.

00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:41.360
What is one area you feel completely misjudged on social media?

00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:50.800
I think because I talk about fashion and clothes and makeup, people think I'm shallow and that's all I care about, and that I have no depth.

00:34:52.079 --> 00:35:03.440
And I also think some Mormons or think because like I don't dress a certain way or because I am into fashion, I am shallow.

00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.079
And that like I I care more about like worldly things than godly things.

00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:10.320
So that's where I feel misjudged.

00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.519
And also like I don't share my kids as much as I used to.

00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:21.039
And I I've always worried, like, I hope people don't think I'm a bad mom because I don't share my kids as much, like I'm protecting them.

00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.119
And I think now people get that.

00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:39.840
Um, but I kind of let fashion be that's what I started talking about with my blog, and that's what I keep talking about because everything else is more sacred to me, and I kind of protect that more.

00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:47.920
I think some people forget with the social media, and I mean I had this idea too that it's your job.

00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:52.400
Like it is how you got started, that's how you did this.

00:35:52.559 --> 00:36:03.440
Like, you started on fashion, clothes, all that stuff, and kind of that ideal life, and and portraying this whole, you know, thing that people like to look at.

00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.639
Like it's literally what it is is what people like to look at and follow.

00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.360
And so I think people forget like that's your job.

00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.480
You don't have to share everything that you do in your entire life.

00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:13.360
You know what I mean?

00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.639
Like where they think that's your everything you do is just that.

00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:20.000
But in reality, that's just like what you're showing.

00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:26.800
There's a lot more behind just the picture on Instagram, and the older I get, the less I share.

00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:31.519
So it is even more or less of like a snapshot of my life.

00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.400
Now, really, all I share is like, hey, this is what I wore today.

00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:38.559
Wait, you're telling me your whole life isn't focused on the next Birkin you're gonna get?

00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.159
Fortunately, no, but I do like it's a hobby.

00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.000
Like in my spare time, I like to shop.

00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.079
As I'm sure everyone does.

00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:50.800
But I don't think you are staring, you're living your whole life for the next Birkin.

00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:51.840
No.

00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.000
Okay, last question.

00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.679
Why do you seem like the meanest scala?

00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:01.519
Because I have dark hair and I resting bitch face.

00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:03.519
Same though.

00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.559
Have you all been looking at my face the whole time?

00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.760
Blondes are more approachable.

00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:18.800
Also, I'm a Capricorn, and I think Capricorns are more like buttoned up and like they hold their cards closer to their chest.

00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.039
So when I first meet people, I'm really shy.

00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:23.519
I don't know, but I swear it's because I'm brunette.

00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:24.800
I didn't know you were into that.

00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:27.679
Oh, I totally am a Capricorn.

00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.079
I check all the boxes of a Capricorn.

00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:41.199
People think I look the meanest because I have dark hair, dark features, and I okay, I read this thing and I'm trying to remember.

00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:55.920
It says it's like a certain energy you give off, and it's like I think I don't know why, but for some reason I think people like my features are intimidating.

00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:14.719
And I don't mean that in like a way of being like I like I don't know if it's the dark hair and the harsh, like and I I don't know, but for some reason I do think I come across as intimidating, and I don't know why, but I would say I'm one of the most friendliest and nicest sisters.

00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:16.400
I would agree with that.

00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:18.079
You heard it here first.

00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:25.360
I feel like I people think I'm the meanest.

00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:26.559
I disagree.

00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:30.400
Well, I think they just see you are like constantly helping everybody.

00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.320
I think people think you're the funny one.

00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:39.440
I by looks alone, like if you saw me out in public, because I just always am rocking my RBF, you know?

00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:44.320
Both of us, we're gonna do our RBS, and Zach's gonna tell us who looks meaner or scarier.

00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:45.119
Ready, go.

00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:46.400
Okay, ready.

00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:51.760
Okay, this is the difference.

00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.719
Amy looks like she does not care.

00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:58.800
Lamies like gives off a I don't give an F vibe.

00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:11.519
Rachel, you give a like a little bit more like scolding look of like I am thinking that something about you and I don't like you.

00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:14.000
That's what you give up.

00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:15.840
It's just my face.

00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:16.400
I don't know.

00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:17.840
I don't know what to do.

00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.440
I think it's because my lips turn down.

00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.079
Yeah, I mean, you just look like bored.

00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.440
You're like, what Zach said, you give no Fs.

00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:33.280
Imagine sitting across from me at the dinner table on a date, and this is what you see.

00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.280
Yeah, no wonder they're like, she's not into me.

00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:38.800
I'm never calling her again.

00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:40.000
I get it.

00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:44.159
Like, honestly, I'd be sitting there.

00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:45.119
Okay, this is me.

00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:46.320
We're on a date right now.

00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:47.679
I'm like eating.

00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.639
I look up, I see, like, you're just sitting there.

00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:53.440
I'm like talking, and you're just like listening, do it.

00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.199
I'd be like, This chick hates me.

00:39:57.519 --> 00:39:59.199
She does not care what I have to say.

00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.239
Yeah, we're gonna end this as quick as possible and get back.

00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:03.119
Yep.

00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:04.159
1000%.

00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:05.280
Yeah.

00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:06.159
Yeah.

00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:08.159
Yeah, that's funny.

00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:09.280
That's funny stuff.

00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:11.119
Okay, exhibit A.

00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:12.880
This is our new segment.

00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:16.800
Uh, we're pulling up old Rachel Internet moments.

00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:22.400
And she has to defend them or explain what on earth was going on.

00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:24.320
I will say, I'm gonna keep them positive.

00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:25.760
We're gonna be it's gonna be good moments.

00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:27.280
I don't want them to be bad.

00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:28.960
So the first one.

00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.000
I will send you the link.

00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:33.519
I have it right here for you both.

00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.960
You can pull it up, and I want to get your first reaction.

00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.000
My favorite moment in this was this is so good.

00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:48.480
No, my favorite is this guy down here in this picture with you and Emily when he looks like he has something very inappropriate for the colour.

00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:50.880
Oh my gosh, yeah, what is that?

00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:53.039
Like, who is that picture?

00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.920
You guys, I was so naive and young.

00:40:56.079 --> 00:41:00.320
Like, I didn't even now I look at it and I'm like, that's clearly supposed to look like a wiener.

00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.360
Why did I include that in my blog post?

00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:07.840
I probably liked my outfit and it showed a full body picture of my outfit.

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:08.880
I'm not kidding.

00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:10.000
That is hilarious.

00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:12.000
And then the we got to sit by Lens.

00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:13.119
Oh, I don't think.

00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:14.320
This is good stuff though.

00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:15.760
I have to log off.

00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:17.199
I am horrified.

00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:21.599
I I I want to go delete old blog posts so bad.

00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:23.679
I don't even want to know I can't.

00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:24.159
Oh.

00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:25.039
Stop.

00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:28.320
Drew and I watched two movies and I started the Hunger Games.

00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:29.920
Best book I've ever read.

00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:31.840
Yeah, that's probably like the only book.

00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:33.679
Yeah, I know I was gonna say.

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:35.199
Is that the last book I've ever picked up?

00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:37.440
That and Twilight.

00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:38.800
No, it actually was really good.

00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:39.920
Hunger Games was good.

00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:41.199
It's a fun read.

00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:47.519
I read this book in like sixth grade, and I was like, oh wow, I like reading.

00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.960
You guys, can I just say I was 19 years old?

00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:52.639
I was 19.

00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:54.239
This is 2011.

00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:58.000
Yeah, what was I know?

00:41:58.079 --> 00:41:59.679
So I'm saying, like, this is a long time ago.

00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.079
I just think I was like so young.

00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:03.039
I didn't know.

00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.119
Like, I I don't know why.

00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:06.000
Like what?

00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:07.599
I I don't know.

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:09.280
But this is the start though.

00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:10.159
This started it.

00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:12.239
Did it not?

00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.480
Honestly, and don't even ask me, like, don't get me started.

00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:19.840
Look at the white, the white leggings.

00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:20.960
Yeah.

00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:25.599
Like, I remember thinking I looked so cute, and I don't know.

00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:26.639
It's so bad.

00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:27.760
It's so bad.

00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.199
Like, why can't we see that full picture on your blog though?

00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:32.159
That was good stuff.

00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:34.400
Here's the full picture.

00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:35.760
Oh yeah.

00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.400
Okay, but different times, different style.

00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:40.400
Like, this was the this was the stuff.

00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:43.519
That Lululemon bag had such a chokehold on us.

00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:44.320
It did.

00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.440
Actually, there's a quote in there about that.

00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:48.559
Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:55.119
The purple bag I have in the photo is, of course, a Lulu bag and is the most amazing traveling bag ever.

00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:56.639
I totally recommend it.

00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:57.840
I use it all the time.

00:42:58.320 --> 00:42:59.199
It's embarrassing.

00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:00.159
Okay, next one.

00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:03.280
It's not.

00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:05.360
Exhibit A2.

00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.280
Goodbye 2011.

00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.119
Hello 2012.

00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.199
Oh, the Cheetah J.

00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:12.320
Crew belt.

00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:16.719
I stand behind every piece of content in this blog.

00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:21.599
The real question I had for this one was you're talking about your goals.

00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.400
Did you ever think it would become what it is now?

00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:28.960
Like, what were your goals back in 2011 going into 2012, if you remember?

00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:30.159
Okay, this was my goal.

00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:37.599
On blog, so I was still on Blog Spot at this time, and there was a little follower button count on like this side of your blog.

00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:42.079
And I had like 25 subscribers that it showed.

00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:44.960
And my goal was to get to a hundred.

00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:46.960
And how many did you get to in twenty twelve?

00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.199
If if like around an estimate?

00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:50.639
A hundred thousand.

00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.880
That's a crazy like this.

00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.679
What was your what were you thinking though when that happened?

00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:59.840
This was my first official outfit post, I'm pretty sure.

00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.519
I had just gotten a new camera that like blurred the background.

00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:09.039
This photo went Pinterest viral.

00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:18.880
So I went from like having 200 page views a day to 200,000 page views a day from Pinterest.

00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:25.440
All the traffic was driven from Pinterest, and it was all girls pinning this outfit as like outfit ideas.

00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.320
And that's what drove all the traffic, and that's what went like fool That's so insane.

00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.159
I'm so proud of this post.

00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:33.280
I love this post.

00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:37.440
That's literally what took you from your goal of 100 to 100,000.

00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:38.639
That's kind of wild.

00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:45.119
So my mom took these photos of me because everyone else was like, Why are you taking a picture of your outfit?

00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.840
Like social media, like no one was doing this at the time.

00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:48.719
It was weird.

00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:52.480
And we went, this is in front of my grandparents' house.

00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:54.320
They're so cute.

00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:56.000
And look, you can see the pup.

00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:07.679
And my mother-in-law got me this jacket from it's a blazer from Nordstrom.

00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:09.119
It was like$500.

00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.800
And I was like, anyway, yeah.

00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:14.400
No, that's actually a good question.

00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:24.480
What I wanted to ask though was from the in-law perspective, what were your in-laws saying when you started posting these pictures and basically your journal?

00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:27.280
My mother-in-law was super into shopping.

00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:29.920
So she liked, I would buy something from J.

00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:31.679
Crew and then she would go buy it.

00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:33.199
So I think she liked it.

00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:35.199
But wasn't it there like a time though?

00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.119
I remember there's a story about Happy Sumo.

00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.880
Drill, that little effer, thought I was so weird.

00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:45.440
And he was like, Why don't you go get a job at Happy Sumo and Wait Tables?

00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.599
And I was like, When did that happen?

00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:48.559
Like what time period?

00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:51.119
Was this in 2011 or like going into 2012?

00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:52.559
I think this was 2011.

00:45:52.719 --> 00:46:01.920
We'd been married for a year, and I was kind of working for my grandpa, but it was like pretty far from our house.

00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:03.840
It was like a 45-minute drive.

00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:11.599
So he was like, Why don't you get a job at Happy Sumo that's 15 minutes from our house and like get a real job?

00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:13.599
And like, why are you taking pictures of your outfits?

00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:14.480
Like, I don't get it.

00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:18.400
So I went, I went and applied to Happy Sumo and I didn't get the job.

00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.079
They wouldn't have no way.

00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:21.360
Yeah, I didn't get the job.

00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.840
I didn't know you actually applied.

00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:33.039
I I went in and applied, and I didn't have any like waiting, like I didn't have experience in waiting tables or like being a host.

00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:35.199
And so I didn't get hired.

00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:45.039
And within one year, I was making way more from my blog than what I would have been making at Happy Sumo.

00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:51.760
And then I got offered a full-time job at Downe's to be their jewelry designer within one year.

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.760
It's because the blinders.

00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:56.480
God put the blinders on Happy Sumo.

00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:02.079
God put the blinders on that hiring person at Happy Sumo.

00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:02.800
It allows me to be a good one.

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.920
He saw the big picture and he was like, She doesn't see it yet, but she will.

00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:08.480
Yeah.

00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:10.880
And my husband didn't see it yet.

00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:11.840
I knew.

00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:13.440
I mean, I Shannon knew.

00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:14.719
Shannon knew.

00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:16.159
Shannon and God.

00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:17.360
They know all.

00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.559
I mean, that would be tough.

00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.760
But I feel like everyone has that story that like blew up something crazy.

00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:29.280
It's always the I started doing this and everyone thought I was a freak or thought everything I was crazy for doing it.

00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:30.960
And then it like takes off and goes well.

00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:32.079
That's that's that's a good idea.

00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:35.440
I will say this.

00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:40.480
I went to lunch with one of my high school friends a few years after things had blown up.

00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:48.800
And she said, you know, when you first started your blog, all of our high school friends were like laughing at you behind your back and being like, She's so weird, what is she doing?

00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.599
And she goes, and now you're the one laughing.

00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:52.400
That's awesome.

00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:54.880
That's awesome.

00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:57.039
Now they're all trying to uh come back.

00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:03.199
Now it's so normal, and everyone's an influencer and everyone takes pictures of their outfits, and now it's just like normal.

00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:04.079
Yeah.

00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:04.719
Yep.

00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:05.599
That's cool.

00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:06.960
Okay, last one.

00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.320
This one's just because a lot of people ask about Rachel Parcell, the fashion line.

00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:13.760
What was going through your thoughts?

00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.119
This is when it first dropped into Nordstrom, right?

00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:23.920
To go from 2011, 2012, getting blowing up and now having your own line into Nordstrom.

00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:25.519
What was my thoughts?

00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:27.679
This was definitely the height of my career.

00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:34.559
I remember I was in Seattle and I was walking back from Nordstrom headquarters to my hotel.

00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:38.800
And I was like, I knew.

00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:40.559
I just the meeting went so well.

00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.599
I knew I was gonna get it, even though they hadn't set a contract yet.

00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:45.840
I knew that they were gonna take the line.

00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:55.199
And I just remember the whole walk back, just like tears in my eyes, and just praying, like, thank you, Heavenly Father, thank you, Heavenly Father, for this opportunity.

00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.639
Like, I'll remember that forever.

00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:03.280
Um, but that was definitely the height of my career.

00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:04.320
That's cool.

00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:05.440
That's really cool.

00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:06.559
It was really cool.

00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:08.000
I mean, that is the cool part though.

00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:13.360
Like, you have this all documented, like every cool moment that you had is all out there.

00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:15.760
Like, so you can relive it or go look at it at any time.

00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:16.400
Yeah, yeah.

00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:19.199
Like one day I can show my kids and yeah.

00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:20.559
Yeah, it was cool.

00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.400
No, see, I was nice with the moments, okay?

00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:23.280
I didn't do anything crazy.

00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:26.639
They were all You were so kind, all good moments.

00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:32.719
Um, usually we do judge and jury now, but I think we might be out of time.

00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:34.719
Dude, one, I like to hear these stories.

00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:35.360
I like to give advice.

00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.519
Amy, you can be like to your horse lesson.

00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:38.880
Okay, fine.

00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:40.000
Here you go.

00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:42.400
Okay, one judge and jury.

00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.760
I went on three dates with a guy and is going really well.

00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.360
I posted a story of our hands clinking drinks together.

00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.400
No face, no tag, just a soft launch.

00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:58.000
My friend screenshot it and sent it to our group chat saying, Okay, Miss Soft Launch.

00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:05.119
He saw it because he's in that group chat and he told me it gave him the ick that I was already posting him.

00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:12.239
Am I guilty for posting too soon, or is he guilty for being dramatic about a literal handpick?

00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:13.599
Both.

00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:15.920
In my opinion, both.

00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:18.960
First of all, what a baby.

00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:23.199
It's not like she tagged him and she wasn't like, I'm in love.

00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:25.039
Like, get over it, bro.

00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:28.639
But also, how many dates she had gone on three dates with the guy?

00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.800
Three dates is a little soon.

00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:34.400
When did you soft launch?

00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.119
Um, well, actually, I didn't soft launch.

00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:41.039
I just full hard launch.

00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:44.239
Against my will launched.

00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:44.960
Okay.

00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:47.599
Rachel, what do you think?

00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:50.719
I don't think he likes you.

00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:52.480
Sorry.

00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:54.000
He doesn't like you.

00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:56.880
If he liked you, he would not have cared.

00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:58.880
If he liked you, he wouldn't care.

00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:00.079
He wouldn't care.

00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:00.559
Sorry.

00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:04.719
He doesn't want oh his hand, oh his hands in your story.

00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.039
F you, grow up, be a man.

00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:08.079
He's not a man.

00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:14.480
If he was a man who liked you, he could have given two Fs that you were like clinking.

00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:15.519
Yeah.

00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:16.639
For a guy.

00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:18.719
Red flag, red flag.

00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:20.159
I would agree.

00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:27.920
If I'm a guy and I look guys don't want to be posted in stories because they don't want to be viewed as off the market.

00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:38.480
And so if the guy is freaking out because everyone else is seeing that he is taken, then that means he probably doesn't want to be taken.

00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:40.239
So probably not good luck.

00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:44.719
Yeah, I would probably say he's not interested and uh move on from that one.

00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:45.920
Guilty.

00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:47.679
Guilty.

00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:48.960
I agree.

00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:49.519
He's guilty.

00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:50.719
He's guilty.

00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:51.760
Guilty, not her.

00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:53.039
Yeah, you're not guilty.

00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:55.920
He's guilty, and you deserve better.

00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:58.559
And God is putting blinders on him.

00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:00.320
And so move on.

00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:01.519
Yep.

00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:03.760
That ick was a blinder.

00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:04.639
Yeah.

00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:06.400
He's getting I have the ick.

00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:06.960
We can do one.

00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:08.719
He gave me the ick.

00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:11.280
I agree.

00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:11.760
Yeah.

00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:13.360
Okay, go.

00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:15.599
Alright, last quick one.

00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:21.119
My mother-in-law and I have always had a slightly tense relationship, but we've kept it polite.

00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:25.119
For my child's birthday, I told everyone I wanted a low-key party at our house.

00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:29.039
No big decorations, no over-the-top gifts, just close family.

00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:41.519
My mother-in-law shows up with a massive balloon arch, a professional cake she ordered without telling me, and a giant noisy toy that specifically said I'd that I specifically said I did not want in the house.

00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:49.920
When I pulled her aside and said, I really wish you would have checked with me first, she got teary and said I was ungrateful and trying to cut her out as grandma.

00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:52.239
Who's guilty in this situation?

00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:53.599
The grandma.

00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:56.400
Really?

00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:02.639
Well, if she said she didn't want it, then she didn't want it.

00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:03.280
Okay.

00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:09.920
Girl, I think we have a little bit of an ego and a territory problem.

00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:15.840
Why would you not want a fun balloon arch for your kid on their birthday in a big fun cake?

00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:20.159
Like, I feel like at this point it's coming down to like you're trying to compete with your mother-in-law.

00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:28.880
Let her be the fun grandma who goes over the top and be grateful that your child has a grandma who goes over the top for them.

00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:32.559
Like, I feel like you should be happy that your mother-in-law is doing that.

00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:33.840
Like, what a fun grandma.

00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:35.119
Take you out of it.

00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.199
Like for your child and that.

00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.559
Like, I think that is so fun and nice.

00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:47.360
And like, if my mother-in-law showed up with a big cake and a balloon arch for my kid, I'd be like, great, I didn't have to pay for that.

00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:49.440
Yay! And like, look how fun this is.

00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:50.800
See your point.

00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:55.599
But could you also view the grandma as trying to compete with the mom?

00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:03.920
Where, like, she specifically said she wanted a low-key party and didn't want all this big stuff.

00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.280
And maybe she made like a handmade cake for her child.

00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:08.719
I don't know if that's true or not.

00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:10.480
That's just like my speculation.

00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:13.440
And then the grandma shows up with everything.

00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:24.719
If the daughter-in-law said, if this girl that wrote in said, hey, I'm gonna, I really want to make him a handmade cake, and then the mother-in-law showed up with a big fancy cake, guilty to the mother-in-law.

00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:25.840
That's effed up.

00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:30.880
But keep it low-key, like you just don't sound fun.

00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:34.559
Like, yeah, give me the fancy cake and give me the balloon arch and I don't have to pay for it.

00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:38.159
And then my my little kids, like, oh a balloon arch, fun.

00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.559
Like, why like be fun?

00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:43.199
I don't know.

00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:49.760
Like, why does it why do you care if the grandma wants to do something fun and special for them on their birthday?

00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:50.639
Why do you care?

00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:51.599
It's weird.

00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:54.239
That's my opinion.

00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:55.360
I think you're gonna be able to do it.

00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:56.639
Okay, so who's guilty?

00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:58.159
Who's guilty here?

00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:00.400
The girl writing in is guilty.

00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:01.360
Okay.

00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:02.079
Amy.

00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:07.199
Mind you, I don't know the back and forth of like Yeah.

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:09.440
Like, there could be a lot of people.

00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:12.800
Rachel does say a good argument for the grandma.

00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:18.000
Yeah, this is the hard part because like we don't have all the info.

00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:21.920
Rachel did a good job convincing me I'm with Rachel.

00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:23.599
The girl's being too sensitive.

00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:26.239
The girl is making this about things.

00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:30.719
The mom is making this about her and not her child.

00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:36.559
This is this is your child's birthday, and this is how their grandmother is showing up for them.

00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:38.400
Why are you trying to get in the way with that?

00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:40.239
That's this isn't about you.

00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:44.159
Don't be an arc and it's not that deep.

00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:46.320
This reader is gonna hate me.

00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:48.639
This submission girl's not gonna like.

00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:51.119
Well, I'm gonna take her side.

00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:52.800
I'm gonna go the other side.

00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:59.760
I'm saying mother-in-law's guilty because I know, you know, we don't see eye to eye on this one.

00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.639
I think the mother-in-law is trying to make it all about her.

00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:04.159
That's my opinion.

00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:09.039
If she already said she wanted a low-key party and the grandma shows up, oh, look at me, look at me.

00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:10.800
I brought all this cool stuff.

00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:13.679
I personally think the mother-in-law is making it about her.

00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:16.159
That's okay, so I'm saying mother-in-law's guilty.

00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:16.960
That's my take.

00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:18.000
That's all it is.

00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:23.760
This one ended up a little bit more controversial on the end, but it's alright.

00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:24.960
All right.

00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:27.360
That's fair.

00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:28.480
That's fair.

00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.039
Um, sorry to whoever wrote that in.

00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:33.519
Um, we weren't trying to be rude there.

00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:40.000
But uh anyway, well, that's the end of episode nine of legally friends.

00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:42.800
Thank you to Rachel for joining us.

00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:45.360
I think we ended on a good note, no fights.

00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:47.199
Everything, everything was good.

00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.639
I I gotta add one thing as we close this out.

00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:52.639
Please.

00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:57.519
I heard a stat I heard a statistic.

00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:14.639
I heard a statistic the other day, and I just want to congratulate Legally Friends Podcast because the statistic was 90% of podcasts never make it to the fifth or sixth episode, I'm pretty sure.

00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:16.000
I can't remember which one.

00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:17.599
What episode is this?

00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:19.280
Nine.

00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:20.079
Nine.

00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:27.679
So you guys have already beat the 90% fail statisti however you say that word, statistic.

00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.960
So congratulations! You guys are amazing.

00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:33.039
Oh, thank you.

00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:34.800
So kind, so kind.

00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.800
Join us next next week where we see um Emily's face, hopefully again on here.

00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:43.519
Might not be very pretty, but we'll see.

00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:44.000
I don't know.

00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.079
I think that would really I don't think she's coming on next week.

00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:47.519
I think that'll really hurt her.

00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:49.599
Michael will be next week.

00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:51.039
Oh, that'll be fun.

00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:52.800
Yeah, we'll have we'll have your dad on.

00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:53.840
That'll be cool.

00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:54.480
All right.

00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:56.639
Because she Emily has staples in her head right here.

00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:58.239
It's just yeah, I kind of forgot about that.

00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:01.039
It's not just the face, it's like all of it.

00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:03.920
Yeah, it's not happening.

00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:08.480
Honestly, probably better for our eyes because I wouldn't want to stare at that for like an hour and a half.

00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:10.239
Yeah, you would like pass out.

00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:10.880
Yeah.

00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:13.360
Because now it's gonna be like peeling and stuff too, right?

00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:14.400
Like, ugh.

00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:16.000
I don't know.

00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:20.480
Yeah, didn't it didn't SJs do that where like all crumbles off the skin?

00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:22.960
Ow! Crumbles.

00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:23.920
I don't know.

00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:25.039
Ew.

00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:25.920
All right.

00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:27.199
Thanks for joining us.

00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:28.159
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00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.159
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00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:32.079
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00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:34.559
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00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:36.239
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00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:37.039
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00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:38.960
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00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:39.920
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00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:40.960
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00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:42.000
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