March 22, 2026

Episode 10: The Best Guest We'll Ever Have (ft. Megan Hunsaker)

Episode 10: The Best Guest We'll Ever Have (ft. Megan Hunsaker)

Send us Fan Mail Megan Hunsaker — Zach's wife, podcast manager, and the best guest we'll ever have — finally takes a seat at the table. She reveals her secret audition for a reality TV show, her jaw-dropping dance resume (Radio City Rockettes at 12, Juilliard scholarship, BYU Cougarettes), and what it's really like being married to Zach. But first, Amy recounts her mortifying moving experience involving movers, a misplaced personal item, and a very unfortunate phone call from her nephew. We a...

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Megan Hunsaker — Zach's wife, podcast manager, and the best guest we'll ever have — finally takes a seat at the table. She reveals her secret audition for a reality TV show, her jaw-dropping dance resume (Radio City Rockettes at 12, Juilliard scholarship, BYU Cougarettes), and what it's really like being married to Zach. But first, Amy recounts her mortifying moving experience involving movers, a misplaced personal item, and a very unfortunate phone call from her nephew. We also spill some Secret Lives of Mormon Wives tea, respond to our worst Apple review, and debate a Judge & Jury case about a husband's secret family group chat.


Key Topics:

  • Amy's mortifying moving story — movers, misplaced items, and a nephew's discovery
  • Megan's reality tv show audition and her incredible dance background
  • Why Megan isn't a regular host (she's the behind-the-scenes puppet master)
  • The 69-day engagement story
  • Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 5 drama
  • Responding to our worst Apple Podcast review
  • Judge & Jury: Is a secret family group chat a red flag?

Guest:

Megan Hunsaker — dancer, BYU Cougarette, podcast manager, and Zach's wife. Started dancing at age 3, was Clara in Radio City Christmas Spectacular at age 12, competed at NYCDA Nationals, had scholarships to Juilliard and Pace, and grew up dancing alongside Whitney Levitt and competing against Lindsay Arnold and Whitney Carson.

Judge & Jury Verdict:

"My husband's family has a group chat that I'm not in." Verdict: Need more information. The trio agrees it depends on context — if it's normal family logistics, it's fine; if they're talking about you behind your back, that's a problem. Amy's advice: go read the messages and come back with an update. Zach's advice: just talk to your husband directly.

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Welcome back to Legally Friends.

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We're here with episode 10, and we have a very special guest, my favorite guest we'll ever have, Megan Hunsaker.

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So excited to have her.

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And we're gonna have some fun things to dive into, some very interesting things.

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We're gonna talk about Amy's very interesting uh moving experience and some mystery uh devices and things that were found in our closet.

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Um we're talking about Megan's special interview for a show, and then we have some good drama about secret lives and Mormon wives, which is not very interesting for me, but that's that's fine.

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And then we'll finish with some judge and jury moments.

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Let's dive into it.

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First, Amy.

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I heard the movers found something or a couple things pretty hilarious inside your closet when they were moving you out of your house.

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You guys, I've never I've never been more embarrassed in my entire life.

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And it happened on Saturday and it happened on Sunday.

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I lived in the house.

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Megan and Zach lived in the house for how many?

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Like a year or two, two years?

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We lived there for like 14 months.

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That was it.

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14 months, yeah, like a little over a year.

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So you guys left a lot of stuff.

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Megan left a lot of stuff in the closet, and I just like also left it there.

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The movers are done.

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So they're like, Do you want to come like do a walkthrough at the end of everything before we go to your new house?

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And I was like, Yeah.

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So I'm upstairs doing the walkthrough.

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I go into the closet.

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There's two things.

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One was a really cute pink thong.

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And it was clean, by the way, it wasn't dirty.

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Number two, it wasn't dirty.

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I'm sick.

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Number two, there was a vibrator left on the shelf.

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Wait, what?

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From you and Megan.

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You're kidding.

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Wait, I didn't hear that, but I just heard about the thong.

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No.

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And this is the thing, they don't know that like you guys lived there before me.

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So they these like I don't know how old they are.

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They looked like they were 19 years old.

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They're like, These poor kids, that girl has a vibrator.

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I'm like, no, no.

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Wow.

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It's Megan's.

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And I was like, and I was like, yes, everything looks good.

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Get out, get out, get out.

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And then I like grabbed it and I put it in my pocket because I'm like, can't leave it.

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Wait, that's insane.

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Wait, hold on, hold on.

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Time out.

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So they walk in.

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These poor guys put all your clothes into your into boxes.

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Do you think they had to touch it?

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Oh, yeah, they definitely moved it.

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Oh they're like, Yeah, I think they touched the thong and the vibrator.

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So could you imagine though?

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There's like two of them up there.

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They're sitting there put boxing everything in.

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They probably both saw it and they're like, They're probably like, Did you see that?

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No, they were probably like, dude, this girl wears thongs and she has to buy.

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This chick's a freak.

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Like, little do they know.

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Oh my gosh, I'm done.

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I am just like a perfect innocent Mormon girl, and it's my sisters.

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So then, so it get it gets worse.

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If that wasn't mortifying enough for me, that like three strangers who are probably 20 years old, I'll never see them again.

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Do I really care that much?

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No.

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But it was embarrassing because like I was in the like we were all three in the closet, we were all four in the closet together.

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Me, the mover, the vibrator, and the thong.

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So that was embarrassing enough.

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So then I have to follow the the movers down to vineyard and show them where I live.

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So I I couldn't just like have this like Megan's vibrator in my pocket.

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So I put it, I I defiled my new car and I put it inside the center console.

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I got a new car by the way.

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We can we can tell this.

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So I put it in the center console, forget about it, out of sight, out of mind.

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I've erased it, blocked it from my memory.

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So the next day is Sunday.

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We all go to Emily's house for family dinner.

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And Michael is like, oh kids, let's go take the let's go take Amy's new car for a spin, whatever.

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So ages are like Yeah, all across the board.

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So then I get a call from Michael, and I'm like, oh, like, why is he calling me?

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He's on a drive.

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I'm like, I hope he didn't crush my new car.

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It's and he goes, he goes, Amy, what's this pink thing that vibrates in your car?

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Oh no.

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I hung up so fast.

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First of all, it's embarrassing enough that the mover saw it.

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It's embarrassing that a my nephew, who knows literally nothing, is being like, hey, what is this in your car?

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It's the only thing in your car.

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It's a brand new car.

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It's the only thing in here.

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Michael obviously knows what it is.

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Michael also is like, she has to find the paper.

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Michael doesn't know that it's not mine.

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And I'm sure he was like, Michael's head is spinning.

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No, I'm sure he was like, why?

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Why?

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Also, why in the car?

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I'm sure he was like, Why is it in the car out of all places?

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If you're gonna have one, it's so funny.

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I'm the dad, okay?

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I'm Michael right now.

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He uh my got my daughter, I didn't get my daughter, my daughter gets a brand new car.

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I take it for a test drive.

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There's nothing else in it.

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I open the glove box, just a vibrator.

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I would be like vibrator.

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Wow.

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My daughter has some serious issues if nothing else is in this car except a vibrator.

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That was the first thing she put in.

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It's so shocking.

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So then he comes home and he's like, no, seriously, like what is it?

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And I was like, go ask your mom and dad.

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Like, I'm not taking that on.

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The best, Michael didn't say a word.

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He was didn't acknowledge it.

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Didn't acknowledge it.

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He wasn't even like, what is that?

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He just was like, We're burying our heads in the sand.

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I I had to tell, I was like, Dad, that that's Megan's.

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It turned a blind eye.

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It was in the Lehigh house.

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Like, I just want you to know it's not mine.

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It's not mine.

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Yeah.

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He was just ready to ignore that forever.

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Yeah, no, and and I think he was like, okay, don't speak of it.

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And I was like, okay.

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Yeah, and I don't think it really made it much better knowing that it was like just his other daughters, maybe just slightly because I'm married.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, we're totally going past that, like it's all the same for him.

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Listen, yeah, it's it's all the same.

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So yeah, that was absolutely mortifying.

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That was just like the cherry on top of just like so many people just thinking that I have a vibrator.

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Little do they know it's my sister's.

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Or is it?

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Uh yeah, if my glass, I'm saying it, I don't know what it is, not ours, not mine, not Megan's.

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So and then I start opening drawers to make sure we have everything, and I open up a drawer, and what do I find?

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The vibrator charger.

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I'm like, Zach.

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Wait, not in this any drawer.

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It was in the silver drawer.

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It was a few wear drawer on top of the forks.

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I'm like, like, I don't know why it was there.

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What is happening inside of this Lehigh house?

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If those walls could talk, man, it's good.

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Anyway.

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Shout out, shout out to All Smiles moving in Utah.

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If you ever move, you could use them.

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There you go.

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That's a good plug.

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Megan, welcome to the podcast.

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We what um I know everything, but uh what has happened this week for you?

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What has been your what are your opening statements for us?

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I have had an interesting week.

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Oh I had a really exciting interview.

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I didn't get it.

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I'm fine with it though.

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I really am.

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I'm laying in bed with our oldest boy Dean, and I get this message on my phone, and it's from a producer, and she asks me if I'd be interested in being on the show.

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And I'm like, I immediately screenshot it and send it to Zach.

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And she's and he's like, you have to get on a call, like, message her back, schedule it.

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I'm like, okay.

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I schedule the call for the next day.

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She calls me, she's like, Okay, we're doing this really cool show.

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I go on that call, they're like, Would you like us to throw your hat in the ring?

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I'm like, Yes, please throw my hat in the ring.

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So she tells me, Okay, I'm gonna throw your hat in the ring.

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I'm gonna take you to the executive producers.

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If they're interested in you, they'll schedule a zoom call for with you for um this certain day.

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So I get a zoom call.

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I'm like, wow, I've made it to the next round.

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This is crazy.

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So I get all ready for this Zoom call.

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It ends up being six minutes.

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I was expecting it to be like 15 minutes, 20 minutes.

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Yeah, I didn't know that.

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Six minutes after I had waited for 30 minutes to get on the call.

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Yeah, I was from the time being.

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But I was like so confused because I we were so excited.

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I thought she was for sure gonna get it.

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I was gonna take the boys out for the interview because I didn't want any distractions, I wanted everything to go great for her.

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And then I think we like walked outside to like go get in the car or something, and the boys are playing, and by the time we we were about to get in the car, you had called me and said you were done.

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I was like, mm-hmm.

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What the hell?

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So, what did they ask you on the six-minute interview?

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So, okay, so the first question was like, Okay, wait, I'm trying to think, what did they ask me first?

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Oh, they were like, okay, so like tell us like what was your reaction when you know you heard about this opportunity.

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And I was like, oh my gosh, I was so excited, like this is such a crazy opportunity.

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Then they were like, All right, thank you so much.

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Bye.

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My track record for reality shows is that I'm just too boring.

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So I think it could have been that too.

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Okay, in a reality show based off of your life, it's like, yeah, are you a little boring?

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Yeah, because you're not a psycho freak.

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I personally think they already knew who they wanted.

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And maybe they had already interviewed, like, since you were at the end of the day, I bet they had interviewed people before and they found like two or three people, or how many people they needed, they found them early and like loved them.

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And so that by the time they got to you, because it was like the end of the day for them, they probably were like, all right.

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It was just like a courtesy thing since it was already scheduled.

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We'll do it.

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We already promised her a call, we'll interview her, and then they waited for the first little thing that could be like, all right, there's our red flag, let's get this over with.

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It's because do you want to know what it is?

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I know what you're gonna say.

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I was gonna say the same thing.

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He said, This is not for Megan and Zach and those boys, not for them.

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He's he's protecting you.

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Yeah, better things are coming.

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He is better things are coming.

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That was a crazy week with those interviews.

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I truly thought, and we already talked about this, but I truly thought you were gonna get it.

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I thought it was a locked-in, Megan was going.

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It was all good things.

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Blinders are on.

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The blinders were there.

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As soon as that call ended at six minutes, I knew I wasn't gonna get it.

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Moving on, I mean, that was my week too, so you just summed up my week.

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I didn't really have anything going on.

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So no real updates from me, but moving on to some questions that people submitted.

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First one, what I think is a very good question.

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Why isn't Megan on the podcast in the first place?

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Oh.

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Megan?

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I'm in the background, I'm the podcast manager.

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But how do you film?

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She's the director.

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I'm like the little puppeteer behind the scenes of the podcast, and that's where I like to be.

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I do the social media.

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Uh Zach and I have really amped up um our real game, our clips.

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I love it.

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They're getting a lot better.

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But building off that, what did you think?

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Because this is like a separate question, too.

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Is what did you think when Amy, Emily, and I all decided we were gonna do this podcast together?

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Was that weird for you?

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Were you like, why, why is Zach doing this?

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Yeah, what were your thoughts?

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Yeah, my honest thoughts, no, not at all.

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It I did not think it was weird at all.

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I thought it would, I knew it would be hilarious.

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I knew that I it's something that like I would love to listen to.

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At this point, I think it was just supposed to be Zach and Emily.

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But Emily was like a little nervous, a little apprehensive, and Amy was like, Well, I'll do it.

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And Zach's like, me and Zach were like, Okay, yes, let's do it.

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You and Zach, this will be so funny.

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And then that made Emily have FOMO.

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So then she jumped right back in.

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Yeah, she didn't like that.

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I was like gonna like come in and step on her toes, and she was like, No.

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She said, No, no, no.

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Uh, me too.

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Don't forget about me.

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Um, so I'm really excited.

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I think it's so fun.

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I love it.

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I think it's hilarious.

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I've loved every episode.

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And were you shocked when I said I wanted to do this?

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Because I have no social media.

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I'm usually not in front of everything like this.

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No, I was shocked.

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I think Zach, he just like loves trying new things.

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So it's just like a fun, exciting hobby for him.

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Honestly, dip his toes into.

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He loves it.

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It's super fun.

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Even though I'm not very good at it.

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But we'll get better.

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It's okay.

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It's okay.

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Yeah.

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Next question.

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You're not very good at what?

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It's a learning curse.

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Being a podcaster.

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I still feel like I'm not good, I'm not good at just being myself and like being Oh, I think you're good.

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You know what I mean?

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I think you do great.

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I think we're like the best podcast out there.

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So I mean it's true.

00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:07.519
It's true.

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All right, next question though.

00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:16.240
If you, Megan, if you could switch lives with one sister for a day, who would it be?

00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:17.519
Ooh, who would it be?

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I have an answer.

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Just one day, I know exactly who I would pick, and it would be Amy.

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Why?

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Because she lives the life.

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Like, oh my gosh.

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She sleeps in most days until noon.

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When she feels like it.

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Not noon.

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Not quite noon.

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Not all the time.

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Not noon.

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I text her.

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But like on this day, on this day where I switch lice with Amy, I sleep in until noon.

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Okay.

00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:49.840
Got it.

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Yeah, so that's what I'm saying here.

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And I get into my brand new cute little car.

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I go get swig.

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I scroll on TikTok.

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I watch a show.

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But then I don't have a thing to worry about.

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And wait, wait, wait.

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Okay.

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Can I add mine?

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Because my day would be Amy's day too.

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You would you would pick me too?

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100%.

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Oh, I'm dead.

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Like who wouldn't pick Amy's life?

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But I'm picking a ghosting day because I also don't want it a day.

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I don't want Emily and Rachel calling me to come pick up their kids or to go run errands for them or anything.

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I don't want your dad saying, come down to work because we have a meeting with the clients.

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I'm going a complete ghosting day.

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I'm just, I'm living back in the Lehigh house though, and I'm just waking up when I want, drive in.

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Oh, I'm going to door dash some food to my house.

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Yeah.

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That is like a fantastic day.

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And maybe I'll go shopping online, get some new stuff.

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Who knows what might not happen.

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It's gonna be a chill, great day.

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I love that.

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I'm honored that you guys picked me.

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Hands down.

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You do a good job of just not everyone's this way.

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You you don't seem stressed much ever.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, I'm very like fortunate that I don't have to be stressed about a lot.

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But like most people don't in reality, you know what I mean?

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Like, but we invent our own stress.

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I am the worst in the world.

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I I'm so bad at inventing my own stress.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You are pretty bad at that.

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But you are so good, and I'm actually jealous of this of like things happen and they just go off your shoulders, like it's whatever.

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I do get stressed, like sometimes.

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I feel like I'm really good at compartmentalizing, and so it's like I can keep my stress like in a stress box, and maybe this is like to a fault.

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I'm like, in the big grand scheme of things, does it really matter?

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No, and then I'm like, who cares?

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Honestly, more than you know, that's like a very good perspective to have.

00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:09.200
Yeah, that is really good.

00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:10.960
You know what that's called?

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Keeping the eternal perspective.

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So good.

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Yeah, and I think that's also like Emily and Rachel are always like, Are you not stressed about dating?

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Like Emily's always like, I was engaged to 17 people and I always had a guy in my back pocket.

00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:31.359
Like, how are you not stressed that like you're not like dating anybody?

00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:36.799
Or like, and I'm just like, I I I'm not stressed because I know it'll all work out.

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And that's why I think you're gonna find like you're a perfect person and you're never gonna force something to happen.

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You know what I mean?

00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:44.480
Yeah, yeah.

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Which is good.

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Because this is the other thing that Michael always tells me is why stress about something that you can't control.

00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:56.319
Yeah, I wish I did that.

00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.440
So, question for you then.

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If you could switch lives with one of the sisters, who would it be?

00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:10.079
That's a tough one.

00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:14.559
That is a tough one.

00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:17.519
I actually don't know.

00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:21.119
Probably.

00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:23.440
I think I know who you pick.

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Well, this is the thing.

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I feel like me and Rachel live very similar lives.

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Other than the fact that she has a much bigger wallet than I do.

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But like, I don't know, maybe Megan, but like you have to be gone.

00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:41.359
Yeah, right.

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You would not pick me.

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Yeah, you're not gonna be.

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No, I would I would pick you because I want to hang out with the boys.

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It's like I feel like me, Emily, and Rachel live very like you just want to mix it up.

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You want to try something different?

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Change it up.

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You want to go live in Virginia across the country in a change of house.

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And I want to hang out with my babies.

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Mm-hmm.

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So that's what I would do.

00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:13.839
And I like I wanna like I wish that I was like you where I like love to cook, where you like like you love to make bread, you love to make dinner every night.

00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:14.960
That's like my worst nightmare.

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I wish I had that love in me because like I want to, but then when I do it the whole time, I'm like chopping the lettuce.

00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:28.480
I'm like, I don't I don't want to do that.

00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:30.720
You're really good at it though.

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You're a good cook.

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I know, but I I hate cooking.

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Really?

00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:36.319
Yeah.

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Dang.

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Yeah.

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All right.

00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:41.359
Next question, Megan.

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Do you feel left out by your sisters?

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I don't feel left out by the sisters.

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Sometimes I do get FOMO.

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Like, I just I don't even have the opportunity to be invited to a lot of things that they do because I live across the country.

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And then, like, you know, sometimes they'll go gallivanting to Dallas or New York.

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And I would love to go, but I can't.

00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:08.880
I don't want to leave my little babies.

00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:14.079
So, background when Megan and I got married, so it was super fast.

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I mean, everyone probably already knows this.

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The 69 days, we got engaged in August, and we were married in October.

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And we got married on Saturday.

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I flew in Friday night or Friday afternoon.

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We went and got our marriage license that night, and then we got married the next day.

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And then Sunday, she flew out to Rhode Island to come live with me.

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And then I had practice on Monday.

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So it was super quick turnaround and your whole life.

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You had only lived in Utah, you'd obviously travel.

00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:45.119
No, she lived in Chicago.

00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:47.359
Okay, but that was for like a couple months.

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Short stints, you know.

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Short stints.

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I had short stints where I lived a winter.

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And she lived in Seattle for the summer, every summer for halfway.

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Every summer I lived in Seattle, and I did live in Chicago and St.

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Louis for three months.

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But fully settled somewhere else.

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Did you have any resentment for me?

00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:09.519
No, never.

00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:21.279
And I think it's because, similar to Amy, like where she's like, I can kind of realize like a bigger picture, like what I was saying before, like with the eternal perspective.

00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.200
Like, I saw the bigger picture.

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I saw, okay, this person that I love, yeah, he lives freaking across the country in Rhode Island, but he's going to Brown University.

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He's an incredible guy who is going to be an amazing dad, an amazing husband.

00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:40.880
So I feel like it didn't really affect me that much.

00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:46.559
And I never had resentment for you because I knew I knew we wouldn't be in Rhode Island forever.

00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:49.359
There's planes, there's FaceTime.

00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:51.680
I've I've never had a problem with it.

00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:56.640
And if I do, if we have to move to a place that I would have a problem, I would let you know.

00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.279
But we've we've always lived in places that I've really enjoyed.

00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.359
Question for you, Megan.

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What is your side of the Rachel story?

00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:06.559
We've talked about this fight at nauseam.

00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:07.680
I'm over it.

00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:08.720
I am too.

00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:11.839
But so just land the plane, make it quick.

00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:13.279
We still close the chapter.

00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:14.079
Close it.

00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:15.279
I'm done with this.

00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:19.839
I think it was way overblown, way dramatic.

00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:22.160
Um on both sides.

00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:27.599
I have a very different parenting style, I think, than like Emily and Rachel do.

00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:29.359
And I don't think that's a bad thing.

00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:32.960
Like, I just think everyone kind of has like a different way of doing things.

00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:41.039
And they think that I am a helicopter parent, but I'm happy in the way that I parent and like how I do things.

00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:42.319
Like I feel good about it.

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And so sometimes when I am constantly told that, whilst being told that I need to be put on selects, that sometimes it makes me feel defensive because it makes me feel like my parenting style is solely because, you know, I need to be put on selects and not because it's just the way I choose to parent.

00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:08.960
So sometimes I can feel like, oh, I can't have a different opinion than you know you guys do.

00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:16.880
Like it, and I feel like sometimes Rachel can't wrap her head around the fact that I could possibly have a different opinion or like a different view on something.

00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:22.480
And so I think Rachel, you know, like she shared the blanket, the blanket story with Isla Rose.

00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:37.359
And um, and like another conversation we've had a lot is like how she had a really horrible experience nursing and how she, you know, didn't want to let it go and she was holding on to it for so long until someone finally told her that it was okay if she didn't do it anymore.

00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:45.519
And I think she was trying to do that for me, but I loved nursing and Wesson was amazing at nursing.

00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.319
And so, like, I didn't need her to do that.

00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:58.799
I felt, I feel like sometimes she thinks I do too much or you know, whatever, and that's not something like I don't know.

00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:06.240
I I don't really know how to explain it, but like I think she felt like she needed to like pull me out of the trenches because that's how she felt.

00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:08.720
But like we can have a different experience.

00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.039
And I think that was the real issue there.

00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:26.960
I also think she was worried because we know how you are, and you are more of like a suffer in silence, where you don't talk about it or like you don't ask for help until like way later, and then we're like, wait, why didn't you say anything?

00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:34.880
And so I I think she wanted like to like be like, We're here for you, and if you feel like this, it's okay because I felt like this.

00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:36.799
So it was all coming from a good place.

00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:40.319
It was coming from a good place with Zach, coming from a good place with Rachel.

00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:42.319
We kind of just lost the plot a little bit.

00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:52.559
No, totally, because I think it's like I would go and like I would kind of vent to Zach about things, and then when I vent about it, like I'm over it, I I forget about it, it's fine.

00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.160
But then Zach is like holding on to it for me, you know.

00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:02.240
And I and I think that's like really common, like with anyone in any relationship.

00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:12.559
It's like if you tell your family about like all these, you know, crappy things that this guy's doing or this friend is doing, whatever, like we do it with Emily and Rachel's friends when they tell us mean things that their friends do.

00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:14.400
I'm like, I freaking hate that girl, you know?

00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:15.119
Yeah, yeah.

00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:17.759
And so I think it's kind of like that situation.

00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:26.559
Um, especially where like Zach came from a family where it was like they didn't just like forgive and forget as easily, I feel like.

00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:34.319
And us, it's like we can like be at each other's throats and then want to go like get, you know, lunch at Nordstrom Cafe and two minutes later.

00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:35.599
So yeah, no, we're all good.

00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:36.880
Me and Rachel talk all the time.

00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.240
And I don't step in the middle with the issue.

00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:52.240
I feel like all the brother-in-laws at some point had to learn they aren't a part of the sister drama, they should not insert themselves, they need to, you know, remove themselves as far away as they possibly can.

00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:54.319
Let us handle it.

00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:57.599
And this was just Zach's, you know, lesson.

00:25:57.920 --> 00:25:59.440
I was just trying to be protective, okay?

00:25:59.519 --> 00:25:59.920
That was it.

00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:00.960
And I appreciate that.

00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:01.440
That was it.

00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:03.200
And you always should be.

00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:05.759
So anyway, okay.

00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.720
Book closed chapter, close.

00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:09.440
We're gonna.

00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:10.240
Thank you so much.

00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.240
I never want to hear about this damn fight again.

00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:13.039
I don't either.

00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:13.839
It's over.

00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:14.640
It's over.

00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.519
All right, that is to bed, that is to rest, no more.

00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.119
So moving on.

00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:35.359
We haven't really talked too much about we were naming like the uh the verdict, which was the pop culture stuff recently, because it's not as interesting, but Seeker Lives and Mormon Wives season, is it season four?

00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:37.119
Yeah, I think it's season four.

00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:38.640
So that just dropped.

00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:43.839
Once again, I could care less, but um, I know this is a big hot topic.

00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:45.279
Oh, I couldn't.

00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:46.000
Did I say I could?

00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:50.000
You couldn't, you couldn't care less because if you could care less, you would care more.

00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:50.480
You would care.

00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:50.960
My bad.

00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:52.000
I meant to say couldn't.

00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:58.799
So I couldn't care less, and so, but I know you both have been watching it and talking a lot about it.

00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:01.440
I just finished it last night.

00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:02.640
Yeah, I finished it.

00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:05.039
I have a few thoughts.

00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:06.720
Let's hear.

00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:12.319
Number one, it's a dumpster fire, it's a train wreck that I genuinely can't look away from.

00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:13.119
Yeah.

00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:17.279
Number two, you want to know what really chaps my ass.

00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:18.960
Oh my god.

00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:21.119
And I'll tell you.

00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:22.559
What does that even mean?

00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:24.319
I'll tell you what chap my ass.

00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:26.880
And you can let me know if it chaps yours too.

00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:42.720
It like genuinely fills me with anger when they sit in those freaking confessionals and they're like, in the Mormon religion, the priesthood holders make all the decisions and the wives just go along with it.

00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:47.279
First of all, what effing religion are you a part of?

00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:50.960
Because it's not the same one I'm a part of or anybody that I know.

00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:58.640
And I don't know, they're probably just doing it like to play it up, like to get people talking about it, like exactly what we're doing.

00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:06.960
But I'm like, first of all, no, Shannon makes all the decisions, hence the car.

00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:12.160
And Michael's like, okay, I guess I'll go do what Shannon tells me to do.

00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:20.640
It like it it makes me so mad because for the people who know nothing about the church, they're like, Yeah, that's weird, and that is cult tea.

00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:22.079
But that's not how it is.

00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:33.759
No, and the church does not promote that, they do not promote the man makes all the decisions, and because he has the priesthood and the woman doesn't, the woman has to follow and do everything the man says.

00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:34.480
No.

00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:51.440
A big issue is a lot of people confuse human nature or just like human personality traits that are negative to Mormon culture because people act like that in every single religion across the board.

00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.400
Atheists act like that, whatever it is, it doesn't matter.

00:28:54.559 --> 00:29:04.880
Like, I know that there are people that have those relationship dynamics in other religious things, and like people who aren't religious act like that too.

00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:06.640
So oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:07.680
Is what I'm saying.

00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.119
Like, it's not just a they're saying it's a Mormon problem.

00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:16.480
I think it's just like a personality trait and like a human nature problem.

00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:22.079
Yeah, it's like hi, remember the hunters and the gat no, the gatherers, yeah.

00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:23.599
The hunters and the gatherers.

00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.000
Yeah, the men would go out and hunt.

00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.559
It had nothing to do with religion.

00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:29.440
Religion?

00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:32.160
And the woman would like gather the berries.

00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.319
I remember vividly learning that in like third day.

00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:35.359
They would forage.

00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.079
They would forage the foragers.

00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:39.839
We were foragers.

00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:41.279
Name the movie.

00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.039
I actually don't know.

00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:43.920
Moana.

00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:49.119
Oh, wait, no, wait, she's saying Voyagers or Voyagers Voyager movie.

00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:53.839
Oh, wow.

00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:54.559
Oh yeah.

00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:55.519
I'm dead.

00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:58.000
They sound the same.

00:29:58.240 --> 00:29:58.799
Anyway.

00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:03.200
Alright, so anyway, back to Secret Lights of Mormon Wives.

00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:04.799
Yes, the dumpster fire.

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.279
Okay, they're it really was such a dumpster fire.

00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:08.319
Like, oh my gosh.

00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:13.759
The two people I like because we know them are Macy and Jacob.

00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:14.559
And Jacob, yeah.

00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:16.160
I've never watched the show.

00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.599
I like Miranda and I like Layla.

00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:20.880
Yeah.

00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.680
I like, I like all of them.

00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:25.599
They're all great TV.

00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.200
Like great TV.

00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:33.039
I just Macy will always be my favorite because I'm friends with her.

00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.440
Zach went to high school with Demi.

00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:37.119
I did go to high school with Demi.

00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:38.720
What was she like in high school?

00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:48.319
She was very quiet, didn't talk to many people, and would always leave with her boyfriend that wasn't in high school on his motorbike.

00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:49.440
That's what I remember.

00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:51.440
So she's always liked the older boys.

00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:51.759
Okay.

00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:52.480
Yeah.

00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:55.359
This is the other thing that people are freaking out about.

00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:04.480
They're f people are freaking out about the bachelorette because Taylor is an idiot and keeps going back to Dakota.

00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:15.440
It's like, Taylor, did you not think that like this wasn't gonna like make people upset that you're sleeping with your baby daddy the day you leave for the Bachelorette?

00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:16.799
That's actually crazy.

00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:21.039
If I was those guys watching this back, because that's all happened.

00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.400
She's already picked, right?

00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:22.960
By this point.

00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:24.160
Yeah, it's gonna be.

00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:25.519
And they're already broken up.

00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:26.400
Spoiler.

00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:28.960
She's already back together with Dakota.

00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:31.519
That that's why people are so mad.

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.599
Because she's before it's even aired.

00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:39.519
She went on the Bachelorette, and then Secret Lives of Mormon Wives came out, and they're like, why would she even go?

00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:42.000
First of all, she's clearly not over Dakota.

00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:45.759
She literally says in the episode, I have feelings for you.

00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:48.240
As she and then she's like, Okay, I'm getting out of the car.

00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:50.079
I have to film for Bachelorette.

00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.559
Yeah, he's like, save a rose for me.

00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.960
Yeah, it's just like I'd be so angry.

00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.000
It's so annoying.

00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:05.599
And now all these past bachelorettes are coming out, and they're like, first of all, you don't go on the bachelorette to try to get away from your toxic ex.

00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:11.599
Because the bachelorette is only two months and then you go back home and he's still there.

00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:12.799
Yeah.

00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:13.759
Yeah.

00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:24.480
So people are not people are not happy with her right now, and like all this stuff coming out about how Dakota had had to call the cops on her.

00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:28.640
Yeah, I because she was like beating him up or something.

00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:36.480
Did you see the call log of she literally called him at 3 45 in the morning a hundred and like 12 times or something like that?

00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:37.519
Yeah, it's crazy.

00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.640
The call log their screenshot of the call 112 times.

00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:41.200
Yeah.

00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:42.079
And then more.

00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.559
So it was probably more like 130.

00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:49.039
Do we think it's true that because they're filming season five right now?

00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:49.680
Yeah.

00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:53.759
Do we think it's true that the cast refuses to film with her?

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.599
Or is that not true?

00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:56.559
I don't know.

00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:57.519
I guarantee.

00:32:57.839 --> 00:32:58.799
I have no idea.

00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.240
I think they stopped filming though because of all of this.

00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:03.200
Is that right?

00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:03.759
Yes.

00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:13.039
So, like a couple days ago, it was like filming paused due to like Taylor and Dakota had to get like a psych eval.

00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:14.000
Yeah.

00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.400
But now, that was like a couple days ago.

00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:22.480
Now it's that the rest of mom talk is refusing to film with Taylor.

00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:23.599
Oh wow.

00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:25.200
Yeah, I don't know.

00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:26.559
I mean, and who knows?

00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:28.960
That's from like TMZ, so who knows if that's even true.

00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:29.440
Yeah.

00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:29.839
Yeah.

00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.160
If you think about it, all this timing is too perfect.

00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:38.799
Like it just all feels set up to drive more drama to get more news on the show.

00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.400
It's all like for all this to come out right now.

00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:52.880
I mean, just listening to you talk about this from the outside perspective because I haven't watched it, it's like everything is stacking up perfectly for the week this comes out, then the bachelorette's coming out.

00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.759
Like all this drama is just like coming out in a swarm to get everyone's attention.

00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:03.599
And even though people hate her, they're still gonna watch The Bachelorette just to see how big of a dumpster fire she is on that, too.

00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:08.639
I mean, here's the thing about her Taylor, she is super lovable.

00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:12.639
Like, I've I really liked like have liked watching her.

00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.039
She makes some really crappy choices.

00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:23.199
Um, but a lot of people have been saying that they think this is gonna negatively impact the views of The Bachelorette.

00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:30.239
Well, because people are like, what's the point of even watching when I know that they're not even together and she's back together with her baby daddy?

00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:37.199
I think they were like trying to like break the mold and like they were obviously trying to get more views, and that so they brought on Taylor.

00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:43.039
Even when she was picked, people were confused because they're like, She has nothing to do with the bachelor universe.

00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:51.840
Like, they just need to either keep it in the bachelor universe or maybe pick somebody who's like more stable.

00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:52.320
I don't know.

00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.199
Like, I feel like they should have picked Miranda.

00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.079
I love Miranda, me too.

00:34:58.559 --> 00:34:59.679
I think she's darling.

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.960
I think she's like, I don't know why they didn't pick her in the first place.

00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.519
Yeah, that was dumb.

00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:06.559
Yeah.

00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.679
So enough with the Secret Lives Mormon Wives.

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.320
Zach, you didn't want to be on that show?

00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:13.360
Oh, yeah.

00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:16.400
I could be on dad talk right now.

00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.239
You could be part of dad talk.

00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.880
Instead of the podcast, I'll be on dad talk.

00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:28.000
Can we talk about how awful they are and how they need to get off Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?

00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:29.199
Yeah.

00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:30.159
Bye bye.

00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.000
I don't want to see Jordan's ugly face ever again.

00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.880
He insigns himself so much.

00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:46.239
It just makes him look like so like thirsty for the tryhard I've ever seen.

00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.159
Get him off the screen.

00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:48.719
Yeah.

00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:50.800
No one wants to see him ever again.

00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:51.280
Yeah.

00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:52.000
Bye.

00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:52.800
Yeah.

00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.760
People have said that about me on this podcast.

00:35:58.320 --> 00:35:59.199
No, they haven't.

00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:00.000
Have they really?

00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:01.440
I think probably.

00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:02.880
Someone left a review.

00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:04.239
Zach is horrible.

00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:06.400
Get him off of the podcast.

00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.199
Anyway, enough with that.

00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.280
Judge and jury, we'll let's just do one since this is really long.

00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.000
And we'll let Megan give her perspective.

00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:16.480
Okay.

00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:19.679
My husband's family has a group chat that I'm not in.

00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:21.280
They have never mentioned it.

00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.960
I found it because his sister accidentally sent something to the wrong thread.

00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:26.320
Nobody has addressed this.

00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:27.519
It's been four months.

00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.719
I don't even know what I uh what I want you to say.

00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:32.960
I just need to needed to tell someone.

00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.400
This is actually I just have a lot of questions.

00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:42.159
So they have streamed what could be out of the family text.

00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:43.760
Yes.

00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.519
Yes and yes.

00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.519
Um, there is a separate family chat that no one knows.

00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:53.840
I mean, the in-laws, I guess, don't know about it, and none of the in-laws are in that family chat.

00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:56.719
Okay, so none of them have that in we have that too.

00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:58.159
What's your thoughts here?

00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.960
There are thousands of group chats that I'm not in.

00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:02.079
I mean, I agree.

00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:03.199
Let's just imagine that.

00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.320
Rachel and Amy have a group message without me too.

00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:13.199
I have a group chat with Emily, Amy, and Rachel, and just me, and I'm Megan.

00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:16.880
But I don't really, that's not active.

00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:17.920
But anyway.

00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:20.400
Um But let's just imagine though.

00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:25.199
Like, let's take a step back, put put yourself in her shoes, that you had no idea.

00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:26.000
Like, that's the thing.

00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.199
You guys are very, you tell everybody, it doesn't matter if someone sees the group chat.

00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:33.039
You guys are very, like, it's known that you have separate group chats.

00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:35.920
But like if it's a secret, that's weird.

00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:41.679
Yeah, so she doesn't know about this, but this has been happening for a while.

00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:42.639
Is that weird?

00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:51.519
I still don't think it's weird because like I'm sure Megan, Emily, and Rachel and Shannon have a group chat that they talk crap on me on that I'm not in and I have no idea about.

00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.599
Only when you do dumb stuff.

00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:54.880
Exactly.

00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.079
So I don't see the problem, honestly.

00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:04.320
I do think like the issue would be if bad things are being said about the in-laws.

00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:05.199
Like that would be a good thing.

00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.079
And it was like if it was like an active secret.

00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.360
Yeah, a group chat to go and talk about the in-laws.

00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:21.599
That's something that I just don't think is good to ever go on start texting your other family members to talk crap on your wife.

00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.119
Like, that's really bad.

00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:23.599
That's weird.

00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:24.320
Oh, I do that.

00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:25.760
You have a wife?

00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:26.719
I mean, you have a husband?

00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.119
No, but like I do that with the in-laws.

00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:36.559
Like, if any of you freaking pissed me off, I'm making a group chat with everyone except for that person, and I'm saying, Yeah, what a douche.

00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.159
But if it was your husband, you wouldn't do that.

00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.079
Maybe if you really pissed me off, I would.

00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.360
If you're, I know, but like a constant ongoing thing.

00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:54.559
Like if your husband had a group message with his siblings and his parents and you found it and you read it, and it was all just like nasty stuff about you, you would be like, You don't even like me right now to me.

00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:57.440
No, he could never do that to me.

00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.000
That's the grounds for divorce.

00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:05.519
But if he's if he's pissing me off, I can text my mom and sisters and be like, he's so annoying.

00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:06.400
How dare he treat me?

00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:08.400
Yeah, that's different though.

00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.679
Whoa, whoa, whoa, what how is that different?

00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:14.480
I've seen this a similar scenario like this play out before.

00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:25.360
And I'm like, if this was roles reversed, like I was talking so much crap about Megan or something like that, it would be the biggest deal.

00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:28.000
But you all be absolutely disgusted.

00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:29.119
It's fine.

00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:30.079
It's fine.

00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:31.920
Well, you want to know what it is.

00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:32.559
You wanna know what I'm saying?

00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.199
I would never talk crap on you, Zach, and I would've never.

00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:46.079
At the end of the day, we're just girls, and we just like we want to gossip and we wanna talk, and we want to just get our feelings out.

00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:51.440
So if you're really pissing Megan off one day, she'll call me and she's like, ugh, he's so annoying, he's begging me.

00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:54.639
Well, usually I do it in front of you.

00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:59.360
Like usually you're an earshot and you can hear me venting about you.

00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:03.039
It's not a secret because anything I'm telling her, I've already said to your face.

00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:04.159
Yeah.

00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:05.039
That's true.

00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:05.760
That's true.

00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:10.159
So that's different than like a shady, sneaky group message.

00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:11.039
Like that's weird.

00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:12.559
If that's the case.

00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:17.920
If it's just normal family stuff, I think it's fine.

00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:20.239
I've never done that.

00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:20.960
Okay.

00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:21.840
All right, that's fine.

00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:22.880
So what's the verdict here?

00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:24.159
What does she need to do?

00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:25.280
Get over it?

00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:35.519
If they're talking bad about the in-laws, then what you do, you make a group message with the in-laws and you start talking crap about them.

00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:36.079
Yeah.

00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:42.800
And you say, there's this group chat, they're talking crap on us, and you like drop the bomb and you let everybody know.

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Send screenshots.

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If they're not yeah, make sure you have receipts.

00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:57.199
If they're not talking crap on you, and it's just like family updates that like the in-laws probably don't even care about anyway, then who cares?

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Whatever.

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And if it really bothers you that much, talk to him.

00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:07.599
Just get your husband's phone and read it every day, or have him secretly add you.

00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:08.400
I don't know.

00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.920
Or just be like, it's kind of weird that you have this group message without me.

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Like, what do you guys talk about in it?

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And if he's then weird about it, give me the phone.

00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.760
This is the this is the other thing that you could do.

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If he has a computer, an iPad, or an Apple Watch.

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You you could go on and read his messages and don't tell him, and then you could ask about it.

00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:40.639
And if he lies about it and is like sneaky, then you could be like, Why are you lying?

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:42.400
I already know that was a test.

00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:43.440
You failed.

00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.159
I actually had a roommate in college.

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Um, I was on a trip, and she took my Apple Watch out of my bedroom and she read my messages with our other friend, and we were talking bad about her.

00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:58.400
It's never been the same.

00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:01.840
It's no, but you weren't talking bad about her.

00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:04.639
No, we were talking bad about her boyfriend.

00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:07.679
And it wasn't just because he was kind of mean.

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Because he was mean to her.

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And they're married now.

00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:11.920
No, they're happily married, they have children.

00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:23.920
I think they're a beautiful family, but I think it's interesting that we never stayed close, but the other girl that was in the message with me, they are still very close.

00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.320
I don't even think it's anything that bad.

00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:31.760
No, I'm gonna say Amy's advice was terrible.

00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:33.360
Don't do that.

00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:35.360
I thought I had great advice.

00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:39.599
Go sneak and find an iPad or Apple Watch and read all the messages.

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:45.840
First off, first of all, stop, information is power.

00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:47.119
And you know, I agree.

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Hold on.

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There's trust.

00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:55.360
You want to have trust of someone.

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If you do something like that, you're gonna destroy the trust.

00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.440
Okay, but anyway, you're rolling your eyes.

00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.559
She's already upset that she's not in the group chat.

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So I'm saying if you're that upset about it, go read about it.

00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.880
So I'm just gonna wonder about bad.

00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:13.119
Yeah, ask first.

00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:14.880
But what if he's lying?

00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:19.039
Then go read it after if he lies, because that means there's no trust there.

00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:27.280
And then you ask, and if he lies, like what if she's like, I'm worried that he's like cheating on me or whatever.

00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.079
You got you gotta know.

00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.039
Go through the phone, go through the the Apple Watch.

00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:34.159
No, I uh computer.

00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:38.719
I agree, but like if I came to Zach and I was like, Hey, can I read your family text?

00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:40.159
He would not think that that was weird at all.

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He'd be like, Yeah, here.

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So if then Zach has nothing to hide.

00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:49.280
I know, so I'm saying if the guy's weird about it, then she knows, oh, he's got something to hide.

00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.679
I should do my but then what if he goes and deletes it?

00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:55.440
But what if he deletes it?

00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:57.039
That's true.

00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:58.159
I don't know.

00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:03.360
Could could you like Disguise the group message name or like things like that.

00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:07.760
So like it looks like that's who he's messaging, but really he's messaging somebody else.

00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:10.559
No, you can't hide a whole group.

00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:16.960
You can only name a group chat if there's like I think like three or more people.

00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:19.679
I think this kind of got away from us.

00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:21.519
I think a little overblown.

00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:23.519
We're really losing the plot.

00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:24.320
Yes.

00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.119
We're really trying to make our own narratives here.

00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.719
Everyone's one sentence, final decision.

00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:31.760
Megan go.

00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:37.440
I think you just need to find a little bit more information out and go from there.

00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:38.480
Okay, Amy.

00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:39.599
I agree with Megan.

00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:40.960
You need more information.

00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:46.800
She needs to come back and give us an update on after she reads the group text what it was about.

00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:49.039
Because what if it's just like about schedules?

00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:49.280
Yeah.

00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.639
Or like they're sending like pictures or whatever.

00:44:52.880 --> 00:45:03.599
But if they're like a surprise for their parents or something, like Zach has had a family text where it's like just the siblings and stuff, and they're like planning, you know, they're they were losing the plot again, people.

00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:04.960
One sentence.

00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:05.840
Go.

00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:06.880
This is my advice.

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Go freaking read those messages.

00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.239
Come back and tell us what they said.

00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:10.800
Bye.

00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:11.599
Yeah.

00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:12.880
Okay.

00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:17.119
My advice go talk to him, ask him.

00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:19.679
I'm pretty sure he'll say it's a family text.

00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:20.400
Here we go.

00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:22.239
Like, I don't think it's a big deal.

00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:26.079
So, and if that is the case, come back and tell us.

00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:27.440
Yeah, I have to know either.

00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.159
Whether it was bad or good, I want to know.

00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:37.599
All right, that's the end of Judge and Jury and the end of our podcast with the best guest ever.

00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:39.920
Megan, thank you for joining us.

00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:41.599
Anytime.

00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:43.760
Podcast Manager, job queen.

00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:44.239
Thank you.

00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:45.599
Podcast manager.

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Everyone, please go subscribe, leave us a good review instead of all the ones that is hating on me.

00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:53.760
Do we have bad reviews?

00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:59.679
We have no many bad ones, but if there's bad ones, it's usually because they hate me.

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They're either glowing glowing reviews, or they're like, we hate sock.

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Which I think is actually comedy, though.

00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:10.320
That's pretty funny stuff.

00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.039
I think that's rude because I think you're great.

00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:14.480
I think you're great too.

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I couldn't care less.

00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:18.320
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00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:22.239
About the about those reviews, but they're they're pretty funny.

00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:30.079
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