Legally Friends
Legally Friends is the weekly podcast where brother-in-law Zach and sisters-in-law Emily and Amy get real about what it's actually like to be family by law. From navigating family vacations and sibling rivalries to dissecting celebrity drama through a family lens, no topic is off limits. Each episode features their signature "Judge & Jury" segment where they give their verdicts on listener-submitted in-law dilemmas — think mother-in-laws who wear white to weddings, husbands who vacation solo with their moms, and everything in between. It's funny, honest, and surprisingly relatable. New episodes drop weekly on Sunday evening.
Reach us at zach@legallyfriends.com or DM us on Instagram @legallyfriendspodcast
Legally Friends
Episode 22: The Thoughts You’re Not Supposed To Say Out Loud
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
Everyone has thoughts they're not supposed to say out loud.
This week Amy and Zach discuss dating, intrusive thoughts, social situations, family dynamics, and the things we secretly judge people for. Some of these opinions probably should have stayed private, but that's never stopped us before.
Okay, Megan has got angry at me because I'm not excited in the face on the podcast. Woo-hoo! Here we go.
SPEAKER_02Cap it up.
SPEAKER_07We're gonna go to legally friends again.
SPEAKER_02Cheers.
SPEAKER_07Uh we're in person. This is kind of strange.
SPEAKER_02I know, right? Like I don't know where to look.
SPEAKER_07I feel odd like looking at your face. I know. It's easier. I'm just looking at my own face.
SPEAKER_02I know. So now we can't see our faces, so now it's like I can't even see like if I look good.
SPEAKER_07I actually feel really uncomfortable right now. Like I don't know how to sit. I feel like I'm gonna be looking massive, you know?
SPEAKER_02No, it'll be good.
SPEAKER_07But um, yeah, we're in Utah. We might be doing this.
SPEAKER_02I'm happy you guys are here.
SPEAKER_07Really?
SPEAKER_02Are you insane? Yes. I mean, you guys are staying with your parents for the first like week or two. Where was I yesterday? I show up at your parents' house.
SPEAKER_08That was actually crazy. I was shocked that you did that.
SPEAKER_02I just like walked through the back door.
SPEAKER_08When I opened that, I was like, what is Amy doing here?
SPEAKER_02It's because I want to hang out with you guys.
SPEAKER_07I know. We're so fun.
SPEAKER_02We had a fun day. Me and Megan laid out by the pool. You went golfing with the boys and your dad. Yep. Then we came. I well, I came up for dinner. We had dinner as a family.
SPEAKER_08Got to see me in dinner as a family. Got to see me fighting back and forth with my dad.
SPEAKER_02No. You and Coach, like bickering is my favorite thing.
SPEAKER_08Why is it your favorite thing?
SPEAKER_02Because it's just so funny. But I feel like no one like in my family really like razzes you.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I just like love watching you and Coach just like go back and forth. Because you guys are so good at like taking it and then like giving it back to each other. I just think it's so funny.
SPEAKER_07I do keep that side kind of hidden from the in-law side.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you can get you can get feisty.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, and I kind of a say there's mouth a little bit too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, should we talk about your golfing?
SPEAKER_07I mean, if I'm going golfing with my dad or with a family member, F-bombs are gonna be dropped.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07It's just what's gonna happen. And people are gonna say, oh, you're not gonna be a big deal.
SPEAKER_02Does your dad, can I ask, or will your mom get mad if your dad drops the F-bomb?
SPEAKER_07He he surprisingly doesn't use the F-bomb that much.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_07He did use it once yesterday. Oh it's all if he uses F-bomb, it's only when he's really angry. So he he actually doesn't use that word that much.
SPEAKER_02So when he was coaching, well then he used it a lot. Was his mouth like way worse? Or did he only was he only bad like during games and practices?
SPEAKER_07This is funny. We're talking about my dad. But my dad um he doesn't care. It was like necessarily just during coaching. Like he would cuss at church sometimes, he would swear. Like I think his dad, you know, had a sailor's mouth, I'm pretty sure. And so it's just the way he is, and he doesn't care who he's around, he's gonna act the same. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02No, he he is the same, and I I love it. That's how you that's how everyone should be.
SPEAKER_07I like it, but when so then we like to go at each other sometimes.
SPEAKER_02No, you guys are so funny, and I so anyway, I can sit and watch you guys and just like have a bucket of popcorn and just like watch you guys go at it. It's so funny.
SPEAKER_07Well, and the way I like my sense of humor is involved some cut curse words and a little more, you know, loud. And I just can never do that here. Like I don't feel comfortable to do it with your family because it's just such a different environment.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, because it's not your family, yeah.
SPEAKER_07And also, I think you're I don't like I can't do that around Mike. Are you kidding me? I feel I'd feel guilty or like sinful because he's such a nice, perfect person.
SPEAKER_02No, and he is. It's like what you said yesterday, like when we got done with dinner, and I like jumped right up and like started helping with the dishes, and you were like, Oh, that's I haven't seen you do a dish in a year.
SPEAKER_08It's like what is Amy doing the dishes?
SPEAKER_02But it's like when you're at somebody else's house, like I'm not just like gonna go sit on the couch at Dick and Diane's house and be like, hey, you guys do the dishes. And by the way, thanks for letting me come for dinner.
SPEAKER_08That'd been so funny. You just go turn on the fire, get nice and toasty, and grab a big coke.
SPEAKER_02I will say, I was so cold at your parents' house the entire time. I was like, Where's the fireplace? Well, I isn't it on?
SPEAKER_07I'm genuinely like hot right now in your parents' house.
SPEAKER_02I think it feels perfect.
SPEAKER_07No, it's 78 degrees. Yeah, that is insane. I like 71, 72 is perfect, sleeping 69. No pun intended.
SPEAKER_02See, okay. I used to be like that. Okay, but ever since moving back here, I like last night I turned on the air and it was set to like 73, and I woke up freezing. I had to go turn it off, and then I woke up this morning and it was like 73 was cold. Well, when the air is constantly blowing on you, yeah. And then I woke up this morning and I think the therm the thermometer or thermostat, what is it called?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, thermostat.
SPEAKER_02It said it was like 77, and I was like, oh, perfect.
SPEAKER_07That's insane. I am swampy when I'm at your house. Like I always just kind of feel a little bit hot. It's I don't like it.
SPEAKER_02It's because we constantly have the fireplace going. This is the same thing. And then we turn like our AC, I don't even think we're set to really turned it on.
SPEAKER_07Set to 78 right now. Yeah, like that's absurd.
SPEAKER_01I think it feels so good.
SPEAKER_07What are you gonna do when you get married and your husband likes to keep it at 67 all the time? What would you do? Just walk around in a snowsuit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't know what I would do.
SPEAKER_07I I think I remember Megan though, she used to like it warmer, but now she's only likes it cold too.
SPEAKER_02Which is so funny because when we were growing up, we were not allowed to touch the thermostat.
SPEAKER_07And what happened with that? Because you guys crank it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't know. We it like if it went above like 71, Michael would lose his mind.
SPEAKER_07Wait, really? Yes, but now he only likes it.
SPEAKER_02We would always say, like, we were freezing and we wanted to turn it up and we wanted to turn on the heat, and he was like, Are you insane? And then we'd get hot, so then we turn we'd wanted to turn on the AC, and that's why. But now he he's a cold guy.
SPEAKER_07No, he is.
SPEAKER_02He does not want the AC on.
SPEAKER_07When you guys came to our house in Virginia, you guys were always complaining how cold it was. We were freezing.
SPEAKER_02We were hunkered down under layers of blankets.
SPEAKER_07I had it set at 73 degrees.
SPEAKER_02I know you guys even turned it up for us. I turned it up, and I was hot, and you guys were literally laying on the couch with electric blankets, heated blankets, and then like the thick, plush, like Lola blankets.
SPEAKER_07Insane.
SPEAKER_02And we were all like huddled together on the couch.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I was yeah, I didn't see my couch for a week because you guys were all just hunkered down like it was a snowstorm in my house.
SPEAKER_02I know. Well, when when we have the fireplace on, like most people turn their fireplace off, like, or they don't use it. You guys use it when like April hits March or April and then they don't turn it on until like November. We use that thing 365.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And we're running that thing all day.
SPEAKER_07I actually well no, the worst is you guys come in. I'm sure we I think we've talked about this. You come in, or someone comes in, complains, it's too hot in this house. Probably like Emily or I can't, not Rachel doesn't, but Emily does sometimes cranks the AC down to like 69. Yeah, then it's too cold and then cranks on the fireplace because it's too cold, and it's like, what's going on here? Yeah, makes no sense. But anyway, um, yeah, lots of thermostat battles with you all, and that's why I only sleep in the basement here because it's colder. But um what else were we talking about? I don't know how we got to this, but you guys, you came over to my house.
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah, yeah. We hung out, we had dinner with Dick and Diane and the boys. Yeah, and then we went and got ice cream at that one. What is it called again?
SPEAKER_07Blacksmith.
SPEAKER_02That place was so good, and you like we're like over overhyped. I thought it was so good. I mean, it's way better than Coldstone, yeah.
SPEAKER_07Or Nielsen's is the best.
SPEAKER_02No, no, that place is so overhyped. I do not like that place.
SPEAKER_07So good. The consistency of blacksmith was kind of odd to me. It was like Play-Doh. You know what I mean? It was really thick.
SPEAKER_02Okay, there's the fly. Um, no, I liked it. No, I thought I thought it was so good.
SPEAKER_07Well, now you can go again. Can you take a date next time?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Maybe.
SPEAKER_07Um, wait. Weren't you supposed to return a report on some things? Have you uh shipped off another horse? Oh, oh, I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_02Sorry, sorry, I th I thought you were talking about the date.
SPEAKER_07No, I was gonna talk about the horse, but please no, no, go into the date.
SPEAKER_02Okay, let's hear the date. Um, yeah, we went out, it was good.
SPEAKER_07That's it.
SPEAKER_02This is the thing with me. I am a slow burn, and I never really know on the first day. I know if I don't like you.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Like it's like very clear to me if I do not want to go out with somebody again. I want to go out with him again. But like Emily was like, was there chemistry? What like were there sparks? Were there fireworks? Like, did you love him? And I'm like, I don't know, like, yeah, he was he was nice. I don't know him.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So it it takes me longer to figure out if I like somebody in that way.
SPEAKER_07Have you ever gone on a date and had those sparks? Like the first one you left, like came home, you're like, I'm in love with this guy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But then they don't like me, so then I'm like crushed.
SPEAKER_07How many times does that happen?
SPEAKER_02Uh, like a few. So do you think not a lot?
SPEAKER_07Uh did that happen when you were younger? Or was it?
SPEAKER_02Um a lot. Well, majority of it was when I was younger, but it actually happened like last year.
SPEAKER_05Really?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Remember, I texted in the family group text and I was like, I found my future on.
SPEAKER_08Wait, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then we never went out again.
SPEAKER_08Well, and then he ghosted you, didn't he? Or is it?
SPEAKER_02Um, no, we just never went out again. Like it just spizzled.
SPEAKER_07Like, then why don't you reach out to him again?
SPEAKER_02Because I don't think he's he's obviously not interested. Why would I reach out to him if he's if he's not like a maybe you seemed a little extra push, you know? No, I gave a push.
SPEAKER_07You want to shout him out right now? See if someone can find him for you?
SPEAKER_02No, I'm good. No, he's a he's a really nice guy.
SPEAKER_07Like, well, that's good.
SPEAKER_02He's really nice and he's darling.
SPEAKER_07I don't remember this, but anyway. Um, so the day was good. The date was good. There's opportunity for a second. You would go on to the show. For sure, for sure, yeah. But, you know, still waiting to figure things out. That's good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we'll see if he asks me out again.
SPEAKER_07That's perfect. I don't think you need to be in love with him yet, you know?
SPEAKER_02No, no. I mean, yeah, Emily and Shannon think that uh they're like they're obsessed with him.
SPEAKER_07Well so yeah, I um and they didn't even meet they don't even know him.
SPEAKER_02They didn't they didn't meet him. I think they just get really excited.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I know. Everyone's just excited when you go on a date. Yeah. So um she said swearing.
SPEAKER_02Shannon just came and said no swearing.
SPEAKER_07That was to you, not me. Um all right, so then also the horse. Have you sent another horse back or what's going on now?
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. No, I did not send another horse back just ruined that poor guy's life. I feel so bad. I actually had a dream. I need to put I need to put it in my dream journal. I had a dream that I saw him and he was- He spoke to you? No, no, like I just like saw him, like he was at like my barn again, like they brought him, and I was looking at him because it's only been like a week since I returned to him. That's true. And in the week, he had lost so much weight, and I was like, oh my gosh, like I need to buy him so that like he can be healthy. And I mean, don't get me wrong, that the home that he came from, like he he had a very loving home. It's not like they were like abusing him or anything, he just was injured. And I'm not about to spend that kind of money on an injured horse. I mean, yeah, you can't even you can't even ride him, yeah.
SPEAKER_07So so he is in a full in your dream, he was in a full-blown depression, yeah, not eating, yeah, because he missed you. Yeah, you should reach out, see how he's doing.
SPEAKER_02If they would lower the price significantly, I would buy him just as a pasture pet because he really is such a lover.
SPEAKER_07That's crazy. And I yeah because you're playing for board for him just to sit there, you just for you to be your little horse puppy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, because I love him, and so many people like I had this one girl DM me because my Instagram's back. Thank you. Nice shout out Instagram for finally giving it back to me. Um, this one girl like responded to my story when I was like, I had to send my horse back and like I was devastated. And she was like, they're not furniture. I'm like, Yeah, obviously exactly. I agree, I'm not buying an injured horse. If he was marketed as an injured horse, and they would have disclosed that to me and dropped the price significantly, yeah, I would have bought him.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, they tried to pull one on me.
SPEAKER_02But I'm in the market for a very specific. I mean, I had him for a week and a half. I couldn't even ride him, you couldn't even saddle him.
SPEAKER_07Like he would just what'd he do?
SPEAKER_02He wouldn't do anything, but he his leg is injured.
SPEAKER_07And he couldn't move really well or anything.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's it would be like if you had a sprained ankle and somebody was like, hey, hop on my back and let me go run you around the backyard. It's like that's not Yeah, I'm not trying to make his life worse. Like I was trying to see if I could help his leg get better.
SPEAKER_07They did try and hide it from you though, right? A little bit. Like they weren't open of saying, Oh, he's a little hurt now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like when we went and picked him up, my trainer was like, He is lame, he can barely even walk. And she was like, Uh, it's just because of the rocks. Yeah, that they were like, um that's why I don't feel as bad. Like, the horse is gonna be fine, he's gonna be happy, he's gonna Yeah, no, he and again, he has a great home. He has lots of horse friends up there. There's they have like 30 horses up there, so it's like he's fine.
SPEAKER_07But is it an investment though? Like it's a lot of money.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like if they would have even if they would have sold him to me for like a thousand or two thousand, I would have bought him.
SPEAKER_07That's a lot of money.
SPEAKER_02But when you're selling a horse for barrel racing, yeah. Yeah, like when I'm looking for a performance horse or like a trail horse that I can take up on the trails.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Like what are you supposed to do? Like it wasn't your fault. No, so you can't. I mean, I like to joke about it, but uh, what are you supposed to do? I would have done the same thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's like it would be like you walking into like RC Willie and buying a couch, and then you sit on it and the leg breaks.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I'm gonna send it right back.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. But it's not a piece of furniture, but he's not a piece of furniture, and I love him. And the owners, if you're watching this, love you too. And if you want to sell him to me for a thousand dollars, I will take him. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_07You're such a freak. Okay, so then where are we at in the whole horse searching?
SPEAKER_02We're still looking. Still looking. I'm still looking. Somebody else wrote me and was like, are you like taking a break from looking?
SPEAKER_07And I mean, it's been really talking about men or for horses.
SPEAKER_02They were talking about horses. Um it's been like a week or two.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
SPEAKER_02And I I went and rode a horse earlier this week, but I'm not gonna get that one.
SPEAKER_07Not excited.
SPEAKER_02But I love talking to your mom about it.
SPEAKER_07Yes. My mom loves to talk to you about it too.
SPEAKER_02So she she's gonna help me put some feelers out to see if we can get a good horse.
SPEAKER_07She's gonna talk to some people. So hopefully we can get one done. Need a good one.
SPEAKER_02I need a good one.
SPEAKER_07Um, okay. What other updates you got for us?
SPEAKER_02Um other than that, I got my Instagram back, which like haul a freaking Lulia.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, so stop making minors' Instagram accounts.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Probably shouldn't do that.
SPEAKER_02That was my bad.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, wasn't the smartest choice, but that's good.
SPEAKER_02Every kid has an Instagram. That's what I don't understand. Every kid. I mean, I'm not even gonna get into it, but whatever. So, yeah, I got my Instagram back blessed. Um, and yeah.
SPEAKER_07That's it.
SPEAKER_02Other than that, I don't really have it. Yeah. Oh, are you guys gonna be here on the 20th?
SPEAKER_07I won't. Megan won't. Why?
SPEAKER_02I bought rodeo tickets.
SPEAKER_07To what?
SPEAKER_02Strawberry Days.
SPEAKER_07Um, dang. It's a Saturday.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_07I fly out the 19th, I think. Dang. Yeah, because I start my job right now.
SPEAKER_02Oh, is that like you're flying to Dallas to start?
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Oh my god. Which sucks. It's gonna be a summer of flying back in the house.
SPEAKER_02You did it last summer. I did it last summer. You survived. But how are the headaches? How are the migraines? You know, do we have one today?
SPEAKER_07Um, not bad right now. A lot of people sent suggestions. So I literally have done everything. Everything you can think of at this point. I've done the shots, I've done Botox. Um, my big focus, and someone messaged me about this, was um like my eating. And I did do a blood test in the winter and found that I did have some like allergies towards gluten and towards some like chocolate and some other things. So I have been focusing on limiting those.
SPEAKER_02And do you feel like it's helped?
SPEAKER_07I it has helped for sure. But you're still getting like little ones, I still get them. Um, but I think it's also because I haven't been the best at eating like super clean the last couple weeks, last like month really. And so I think that plays into it. Um, but I'm really just excited to get to Dallas and find a good neurologist, yeah, and then start working with them to find something. Yeah. Um, it's just annoying. I hate because it makes me so on edge. And it's not good. Yeah. So I need to get that fixed, and especially for my job. But the migraines are alright. Just get something to deal with, you know? Um, so that's kind of a little bit depressing thing to talk about. But what else? Okay. I was driving on the freeway today.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And do you ever get intrusive thoughts on the freeway?
SPEAKER_07Like I'm gonna swerve and crash the car?
SPEAKER_02No, you freak. Just like opening the door.
SPEAKER_08You called me a freak for swerving. And you're just gonna open the door?
SPEAKER_02Sometimes I get intrusive thoughts to just like you just want to crank it open? Yeah. I don't I don't know why. I don't know.
SPEAKER_07No.
SPEAKER_02Sometimes it doesn't ever happen when I'm driving, but if I am like the passenger or like in the backseat on the freeway, sometimes I'm like, what would it be like to just like open the door?
SPEAKER_07You're insane.
SPEAKER_02Do you ever get intrusive thoughts?
SPEAKER_07I mean, yeah, for sure. Um speaking of intrusive thoughts, I just had something that caused a lot of intrusive thoughts to happen.
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_07So we went to Dallas.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_07And so we go to go to our house. So we because we finally moved out of our house and we were going there uh just look at some things and see what our plan's gonna be. And so I go outside, and the way our like our lot is set up, we have like a shared driveway with someone behind us.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07And so it's Dean and Weston and I outside, and two boys are just running around having fun, and then we see our neighbor come out, and this is the neighbor that's just to the side of us. So we go talk to her, and we have to go across our shared driveway, her shared driveway, and it's it's really not that far because they're very small driveways, and then we go talk to her at our fence, and so she has two little dogs, and the boys are playing with her. I'm playing with the dogs, and I'm talking to her, and she's like, Yeah, like great to have you. And she's an older lady, and she's like, One thing I have to warn you about is that the lady behind you flies down the driveway. Who shares your driveway, who shares my driveway, and she goes super fast down.
SPEAKER_02She's like this old 75-year-old widow, which is so funny because usually old people slow down with age. Yeah, like even Shannon. I am like Shannon, let's pick up the pace. You're going five under the limit.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah. So she says this, and literally two minutes later, Dean is like, I want to go back to the garage and go play in our in our yard. He starts going across, and I hear the car just revving up and starting to come down the driveway, and there's trees, so I can't like see it perfectly. Yeah, and I just start screaming, Dean, Dean, Dean. And he literally stops, probably a foot to two feet away from the driveway, and she just comes barreling past, and I'm screaming at the top of my lungs, like, stop, stop, Dean, stop. And she just looks at me and then looks at Dean and just keeps going. Doesn't even like slow down at all. Doesn't even say, Oh, I'm so sorry or anything, just keeps going. And so that caused a lot of intrusive thoughts. Right. That was honestly. The scariest moment of my life. Yeah. And I was so shook. And it was sad because it's like we were so excited about the house. And that just caused me to doubt everything. And I was like, what did I just do? We're spending all this money on a house. And I wanted to get them a good spot that was gonna be safe because we are in like a really great neighborhood and super tucked away and away from everything. And the biggest threat to us is our freaking neighbor behind us.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And so we got to get a fence put in, which is gonna be a huge investment. And yeah, so that caused a lot of intrusive thoughts. Cause after that, I was just picturing the worst for and I still am to this day. Yeah. Because I just keep thinking about that. And it was uh it it makes me so mad. And you know when I get mad, like I kind of yeah.
SPEAKER_02Did you go yell at the lady?
SPEAKER_07I can flip a switch, pretty, pretty major, but no, I wanted to. We walked down there twice and she wasn't there, but my whole plan is I want to go kind first and like try and be a good neighbor. And if she keeps doing it though, I will did the other neighbor that you were talking to when she was like, Yeah, she goes pretty fast.
SPEAKER_02Did you ever ask, like, has anyone tried to talk to her to tell her to slow down? That neighbor has.
SPEAKER_07And the neighbor said, She's like, Yeah, um, I talked to her and told her these they they have the family moving in, has two little boys, and just to beware, and she's like, Okay, thanks for the advice.
SPEAKER_01And oh, so she's a bit, yeah, she's being a bit about it.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, which I'm hoping is an exaggeration. I'm gonna I'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt to start, but I will freaking s slash her tires if this keeps going on.
SPEAKER_02If you do, hypothetically, of course.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I would never do that. Like, let's be honest. Only slash three. Yes.
SPEAKER_01Because if you slash four, then insurance covers it. Hypothetically, of course.
SPEAKER_07Oh, interesting. I don't know how you know that. That's kind of crazy.
SPEAKER_01I don't know how I know that either.
SPEAKER_07But anyway, I would never do that. It's a joke. So um, but then today, literally today, I was on the phone with someone going to give us a quote on a fence, and she's walking the property, and I had told her the story. Then my there, we have a neighbor behind us that goes crazy fast. And she literally on the phone with me on FaceTime, she holds up the up the phone and she goes, Oh, here comes your neighbor, and she is flying down the driveway again. And I was just like, Are you kidding me? Like, she's not slowing down at all.
SPEAKER_02You should put like 20 speed bumps in.
SPEAKER_07I can't though, because there's like some weird easement thing, and I don't have ownership of it. No, like I'm gonna talk to the I'll talk to the police if this doesn't slow down.
SPEAKER_02You can you could buy like speed bumps off Amazon, but I don't have the legal right to do that. Really?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I was trust me. I've been Googling it and talking to AI about it and everything. Wow. But what my plan is we'll get the fence and I'll box it so the boys have no shot of getting out of that fence. And we'll be super careful. But I'm also gonna put a camera up there on the fence to record her and make it so she knows like she's on camera. I'm gonna get one of like the little slow down kids are playing here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And then if it keeps going, I'll record it and just keep start sending it to the police as like evidence, and just be like, you need to go talk to this lady, or that's like because it's technically it's child in danger and it's reckless driving, too. Um so that was wow, that was a crazy random story there, but uh that's been my worst nightmare intrusive thoughts as of these last couple weeks. Last couple days, I mean.
SPEAKER_01I mean, no, that's so scary.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, and it just sucked because we were so excited about the house and so excited about the area. Then to have that happen, it's just makes you doubt everything. Yeah, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I think it'll be good though, like with the fence and everything.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, but it'll be fun, it's gonna be an amazing like spot for the boys, just gotta make sure they're safe and yeah, yeah. Anyway, um what I was saying, wow, this is not gonna be a good tangent here. But I was driving that on the freeway.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07And have you ever seen those billboards with like the old person that says like like Julia?
SPEAKER_02Yes, Julia Reagan?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, if my family, if I die, my family ever puts me on a freaking billboard.
SPEAKER_02No, you know why they did that? No, okay, and I don't know if this is true. I saw this on TikTok, so who knows? For this exact lady, for this lady, so she was in the hospital, okay, and it was like doctor error of like how she died.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02And so I think if I'm remembering correctly, the family sued the hospital or like the doctor or whatever, because it was just like negligent almost.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02And they got like a bunch of money, and they were like, we don't want what happened to like our mom, our grandma to happen to anybody else, and that's why they have those billboards is to like bring recognition.
SPEAKER_07But there's like nothing about that on there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm just telling you what I saw on TikTok. I don't know if it's true.
SPEAKER_07But I was I was just thinking though, driving that if I died and you took an old picture of me and threw me on a billboard for everyone to see every day.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna do that.
SPEAKER_07I would literally come back and find you and and haunt you forever.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna do that just because I know that you don't want me to now.
SPEAKER_07Tell me Ignus for my funeral. Do you ever think about that? What do you want for your funeral?
SPEAKER_01No, what the fuck? What's wrong with you? No.
SPEAKER_02That is like so morbid.
SPEAKER_07It's not. I don't feel like it's that's crazy.
SPEAKER_02That is morbid to think like you're you're planning your funeral now.
SPEAKER_07No, I'm not planning my funeral, but you've never thought like you've never been to a funeral and be like, uh, I can't I can't think about that because it like really freaks me out.
SPEAKER_02Like, I do not want to die. It like really scares me, the thought of death.
SPEAKER_07I'm kind of like, oh well. So that's why keep going. And so I would I literally just want to be put in like a wood box. Like plywood. Like, I don't understand. I don't want you to spend $30,000 on my freaking box that's gonna be put in the ground.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's because they last longer than like plywood, like the bugs will eat through it.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, exactly. Let them eat because like what the box is gonna sit there. What was the point?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Okay, keep going.
SPEAKER_07Okay, and so then I don't want the whole crying fest. I want maybe everyone go have a great fun dinner. Go eat a delicious dinner on me and just be happy and then throw me in the ground, and I even would love to be thrown in the ocean. That would be cool.
SPEAKER_02You are so weird.
SPEAKER_07That would be cool. I would love to be thrown in the ocean.
SPEAKER_02What, so then a shark can eat you?
SPEAKER_07Just throw me out there and then that's it. I don't want any of the money spent. Take that money, give it to somebody, give it to if one of the kids needs it, give it to someone that needs it, and we're good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07That's that's my ideal funeral. You've never thought about that?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_07I just don't want the whole cry fest over me.
SPEAKER_02Well, you don't think that like your kids are gonna cry that their dad is dead?
SPEAKER_07Well, I'm hoping I'll live long enough to be like, alright, time for this dude to kick the freaking rock. I mean, kinda. You know?
SPEAKER_02Like, I even still get choked up thinking about my grandparents.
SPEAKER_07I mean, yeah, I guess.
SPEAKER_02And they lived like amazing lives. Like, it was a celebration of life, but it's devastating for me because I can't see them anymore. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_07I get that. I get that. But I hope I just get everyone to remember the happy memories.
SPEAKER_02Well, duh.
SPEAKER_07And then just to go on with their life.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07That's all I want. Yeah. You never think about that though? You've never been like, uh, this is what I want for my funeral.
SPEAKER_01No. That's like so bizarre.
SPEAKER_07Well, I think it's because on my mission, well, the mission Mormon missions, you know, go for two years. Yeah. Because I went to Mozambique. And I saw a lot of funerals. And it's just kind of like maybe that's why I thought about them so much. Because like, what what what's gonna happen when I die?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I've really only been well, I mean, I've been to like a handful of funerals, but like in my own family, I've been to four.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, gratefully I haven't been too many for around like my own family either.
SPEAKER_01So um, but we gotta get off this funeral talk.
SPEAKER_07This is like Okay, this came from the billboard. Okay, the billboard, I was like, why is this poor lady getting plastered? All these billboards.
SPEAKER_02Maybe we should do some research and actually figure it out. But I did see that on TikTok.
SPEAKER_07Well, if TikTok said it, then it's true.
SPEAKER_02I know, right?
unknownOh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02That's where I get all my info.
SPEAKER_07Anyway, yeah, that was Ram Tangent. But I was just driving here and I was like, that is I wouldn't like that. I don't like that. Would you no?
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, no, I wouldn't want my face plastered on a billboard unless I looked like so amazingly hot.
SPEAKER_08Just that would be actually hilarious. You die, but you you die at like 90 and then you just throw an old bikini picture.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's what I would want.
SPEAKER_08Wait, that would be good. Just the hottest old picture. Yeah, that's a that's a good idea, actually.
SPEAKER_02That's what I would want. Maybe I could like you want to be remembered like in your prime.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it's like me when I'm at the my best most fit, just shirt off picture, just abs flexing.
SPEAKER_02We'll always remember you.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, it's like he's in a better place. That's funny. Just the smallest bikini possible on you, just up on that.
SPEAKER_07When were you boring? 1988. 1998 to 2088, you're 100, but it's from in your 20. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that's what they should have done. I would it would get way more attention, too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's better for the cause. Yeah, if they're trying to like bring awareness to it, maybe they should rethink all those billboards. They've got so many billboards.
SPEAKER_07No, it's you know how much those cost to put up?
SPEAKER_02No, I know that. I'm like, are you using the hospital money on that? Like, go do something else with it.
SPEAKER_07I had when we were doing lazy day RIP, or not Lazy Day Glow, I had talked to people about getting a billboard. They were like $8,000 a month.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And they have a lot of those bills.
SPEAKER_02They have so many, like from like way up north to like way down by St. George.
SPEAKER_07They're probably spending like 50 grand on billboards.
SPEAKER_02At least.
SPEAKER_07It's insane.
SPEAKER_02They have so many.
SPEAKER_07Anyway, so yeah, that could probably be you somewhere else. Um that was very random.
SPEAKER_02That was so random. Sorry. But RIP glow and R.I.P. Lazy Day.
SPEAKER_07What do you think went wrong with those? Lazy Day, okay. This is my one of my biggest regrets was letting Lazy Day die.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Because I understood the like I wasn't very involved with anything. And I understood the self-tanner thing would maybe be our margins were better. Better, could be potential for a bigger business, but Lazy Day was doing well.
SPEAKER_02It was. It was hard though because I don't know.
SPEAKER_07I think that's why.
SPEAKER_02Well, I just feel like our quality wasn't that great.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. It's hard at those businesses because you want it to be good quality.
SPEAKER_01But it if you yeah, to have good quality, it's so expensive.
SPEAKER_07And you don't want to be overcharging, especially for you guys want to be like sweats, a little bit cheaper.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And because then you also have to make enough money to be able to buy the next round of clothes. Yeah. It's just it's tough.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think people don't understand how hard it is to sell a product and then to keep replenishing your stocks. Yeah. Like I see so many people on TikTok being like, why don't they do this? Or why don't they? And it's like, well, because that costs a lot of money. Yeah. Unless you're a massive company with investors, you don't have that kind of money.
SPEAKER_07And we just did those sweatshirts. And I think people saw, maybe people saw a $75 price tag and they're like, Whoa, why are you guys charging $75 for the chaps my ass sweatshirt, you know? But it was because we had to do it custom and we really weren't making any money off it because we had to ship it and it had to, there's just so many little things that go into it. Well, and also Or like doing not that many sweatshirts.
SPEAKER_02In like today's day and age, which is so shocking that I'm even saying this, $75 for a sweatshirt is cheap. There are sweatshirts out there for like $150, $200 plus.
SPEAKER_07I know. When you go to Lululemon or Aloe or whatever, yeah, it's insane.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07I I hate it. Yeah. So Lazy Day. I kind of wish we would have kept with it though.
SPEAKER_02But we could always bring it back.
SPEAKER_07We should. We should like merge it with legally friends lazy day. But we don't really need merge.
SPEAKER_02This is the thing. It's so hard to sell product.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it is. It is.
SPEAKER_02And especially like trying to compete with all the other like athleisure or like sweat.
SPEAKER_07There's just so many out there.
SPEAKER_02There's just so many sweatshirts out there that somebody like buying an like Shannon always tells me, if you buy another sweatshirt or sweatpants, like you need that, like you need a hole in the head.
SPEAKER_07It's very true. Yeah, I agree with that statement. It's just like there's just a lot out there. And then what about what happened with glow? Glow, well, this was my you tell me if I was wrong with glow. Well, tell me if I'm wrong. Glow was a great idea. I thought it was gonna be good. We or there were some mistakes made with the manufacturer.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Shouldn't have gone with that one. Those people were the worst ever. And then what I felt happened was when we got the product back and we saw like the quality of the bottle, and we saw started having some issues leaking. Then it was like, I personally felt you were like, I don't want to ever post about this because it's such crap.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And it wasn't like the product, the liquid itself was really good. Yeah. The actual tanner. But it was just the bottle it was in. And so I feel like you and Megan a little bit felt embarrassed about the pro like the bottle.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Because of the branding and all that. And then that kind of like caused it to just fall off.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because it's when you're not like excited about something, like it's hard to like post about it and be like, oh my gosh, this is so amazing. And then when the customer opens the box and the tanner is leaking all over, yeah. Then it's just like it's it's very defeating.
SPEAKER_07And we had invested so much money, so much money.
SPEAKER_02And we were in RD with research and development for like three years, so long.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then when the bottles sucked, I was like, Are you freaking kidding me?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I talked to some people about that after, and there's they were all like, you need to sue that company. We should have.
SPEAKER_03We should have.
SPEAKER_07But I've I actually heard um from some other people the manufacturer using like started dying.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like right after a lot of people left that company, which they suck so good.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. So that was that was unfortunate though. It was fun trying to do it. Like I love trying to do that stuff, but it sucked not having a good product to push out there.
SPEAKER_02And it it's so hard. I but going back to the money, it's so hard when you don't really have the money.
SPEAKER_07And you make one mistake like we did, and it costs you and it you have nothing left.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it that is it was devastating. Unless you got some big financial backers, or you just have a lot of money to try it out with.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It can go down fast. Okay, I really feel like we're being like really depressing this episode.
SPEAKER_07We are talking about some really sad things, but that's fine, that's normal.
SPEAKER_02Like death failed businesses and migraines.
SPEAKER_07Oh my son almost getting ran over.
SPEAKER_02Snooze fest. Like, oh my gosh, they're everyone's gonna be like so sad and depressed. We gotta pep it up.
SPEAKER_07Alright, all right. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_02What can we talk about to pep it up?
SPEAKER_07Let's pep it up. Let's pep it up with um, I don't know. What do you got?
SPEAKER_02Um, let's see.
SPEAKER_07I could always there's we have a couple of judge judge and jury write-ins. We could just go right to those.
SPEAKER_02Do you want to go to judge and jury or do we want to keep yapping?
SPEAKER_07Well, unless you got it something to pep us up because I just got in trouble for do being too depressing.
SPEAKER_02Well, no, I've been depressing too.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um, let's see. I'm on my last month of Accutane. So that's like so exciting for me.
SPEAKER_07Big party. I know. I don't have to hear about your crusty boogers.
SPEAKER_02No, you guys. Like, my nose has never hurt so bad in my entire life.
SPEAKER_07Do wait, will you still have to carry on nipple cream after you're done?
SPEAKER_02It's my favorite thing. Like, no, once I'm done with Accutane, I can go back to Aquifore.
SPEAKER_07Okay, what is up with you and your family in Aquaphore? You guys are always drinking Aquifor.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because it's so dry in Utah.
SPEAKER_07I don't get it. I don't get it.
SPEAKER_02Have you did you ever do Accutane?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_02Well then yeah, you don't get it.
SPEAKER_07But okay.
SPEAKER_02But like, do your like do you ever put on chapstick?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, every night. I mean, every day, morning.
SPEAKER_02And that's it. Like you don't need to reapply during the day.
SPEAKER_07No, like I definitely could right now. My lips feel a little dry.
SPEAKER_02But like if I don't have even before Accutane when I was just like had my aquapore, like I never left the house without aquapore.
SPEAKER_07No, I know. None of you do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because I can't stand the feeling of my lips being dry.
SPEAKER_07Is that why you guys all put it like an inch above your lips too?
SPEAKER_08It looks like you're just walking around and just you guys just rubbed your face on some grease.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And it's even worse on my Accutane because the corners of my lips get so crusty. And so I'm like this, and then it's like gets further and further out.
SPEAKER_08I looked back at you yesterday, or was that two days ago in the razor? Okay. I looked back at you. I'm like, oh my gosh, are you sweating? She had like balls of nipple cream on top of your lips. I was like, what is happening? I thought you were having a diarrhea thing again.
SPEAKER_02No, okay, and I didn't have a diarrhea thing. I had the opposite of diarrhea thing. The constipation thing, sorry.
SPEAKER_07It's a little consty. Okay. The consty makes it sound so much clear.
SPEAKER_04It makes it cuter.
SPEAKER_07Okay. Um, yeah, you guys and your Aquafort are insane. And like, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_00Right now?
SPEAKER_07Yes.
SPEAKER_00I'm applying my nipple cream.
SPEAKER_07Why do you have to call it nipple cream too? We'll be out in public and you're like, anyone see my nipple cream?
SPEAKER_08It's like, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_00I guess that's what it's called.
SPEAKER_08But just call it like your chapstick. No one needs to hear.
SPEAKER_02I have started calling it my chapstick, I will say. And I actually bedazzled it because like it's like in bold letters, like nipple cream right above the top. And one time I was out on a date. This was like, I don't know, maybe like a few weeks ago, a month ago.
SPEAKER_07Was this the golfing one?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And I was holding my phone and my nipple cream like this. And it was my turn to hit. So I was like, can you hold this? And he was like, Yeah. And then he was like, Why do you why do you have nipple cream?
SPEAKER_08No, he's open middle of the middle of the bulk ears like this.
SPEAKER_02I was like, Oh, I want acute dane.
SPEAKER_07You're like, I'm nursing.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, I don't actually use it on my nips, I use it on my lips.
unknownOh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02And he was like, Okay. So then I started carrying her on my bedazzled because then it's just like looks like a cute purple aqui. And people are like, oh, what is that?
SPEAKER_07And I'm like, oh, it's chapstick, it's aqui for you should start a business just bedazzling things for people.
SPEAKER_02Do you know how long this took me?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_02I I went through a bedazzling phase like a month ago, where it was all I did for like two weeks. Ask Michael, he would come down every morning because I would stay up until like one or two, bedazzling crap, watching Netflix, and he would come down and he like it's just there's just rhinestones everywhere, and he would get so mad at me.
SPEAKER_08It's like your 12-year-old.
SPEAKER_02No, but it's so fun.
SPEAKER_08How like how long does it take you?
SPEAKER_02How many hours? Well, so you you have to like wait for things to dry. So I would do like I did like this side, and then I would wait for it to dry because then to like flip it over, if you hold it, then the rhinestones move. So then I would like move on to like my keys, and then I would do one side of my keys and let that dry like overnight or for two days, and then I did like an Advil bottle, let that dry, and then I did Michael's keys.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um did I do anything else?
SPEAKER_07You're supposed to do Megan's. She's been baking.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, I'm I need to do Megan's.
SPEAKER_07Or you're out of the phase now, so you're not gonna do any more.
SPEAKER_02No, I'll do it, but I need to do it when she lives here.
SPEAKER_07Okay. Well, that'll be in like a week. Yeah. So okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So But this probably took me like two or three days.
SPEAKER_07That is insane.
SPEAKER_02Maybe four, waiting for everything to dry.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. You can't start a business doing that. You'd have to charge like a thousand dollars to freaking rhinestone something.
SPEAKER_02No, and there are girls who like they that's what they do is just rhinestone things. And like good on them because my hand starts cramping, my back hurts, because you're like hunched over like this.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like, okay, you don't have TikTok, but have you seen the girl bedazzling her car?
SPEAKER_07Uh, I feel like it maybe Megan showed me or something.
SPEAKER_02I love when she pops up on my TikTok.
SPEAKER_07She's bedazzling her whole entire car.
SPEAKER_02Her Honda CRV.
SPEAKER_07How long has she been doing?
SPEAKER_02She goes, I'm bedazzling my Honda CRV. And she does like it's almost done.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_02And now she's moving on to the wheels. Some company sent her rims, and the rims are like hearts. And so now she's bedazzling the rims. It's actually really cute.
SPEAKER_07No way. That cannot look good. Yeah, do you want to see? Yeah, that can't look good.
SPEAKER_02No, it's actually so cute. And I'm like, dang. But she's gotten like some crazy like collaborations. Like she did she did the NBA finals ball.
SPEAKER_07Oh, that's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02She bedazzled it with like all the teams on it.
SPEAKER_07See, it's like those random things that just all of a sudden blow up. Like I don't get it. It's so random. They start bedazzling your car though. That's wild.
SPEAKER_02I'm bedazzling my Honda C R V.
unknownHonda C R V last week I think.
SPEAKER_02Like the patience.
SPEAKER_05I would die. See the heart rims. I would have to do that. That's craziness.
SPEAKER_02But it's like literally her entire car.
SPEAKER_07What is she gonna do after she's done bed hazling the car? It looks like it's done. It's not quite done.
SPEAKER_02She has um sh well, this is from two weeks ago. So this was she was doing her passenger door. That is insane. And then like that other video, she was doing her roof and the wheels.
SPEAKER_07And other than that, she's I mean, if that took you four days to do that little thing.
SPEAKER_02I mean, obviously, she'd probably a lot quicker, but she and she only updates her car every week, and she's been doing it for I don't even know.
SPEAKER_07Well, yeah, she's gotta drag this out.
SPEAKER_02Look how good that is.
SPEAKER_07That is cool. How much how many followers does she have?
SPEAKER_02She has 543,000. People will like collabs or collabs.
SPEAKER_07Why don't you start doing that? You should do that for companies.
SPEAKER_02Like she TikTok.
SPEAKER_07Like her personality fits it well, though. I feel like.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like Sephora had her rhinestone a bag. Actually, I think they had her rhinestone multiple bags for like some retreat that they did.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, that's crazy. If you had one random like skill, what would you want it to be? That you could like bedazzling, like you could be the best bedazzler in the world. But you could be like the best at something. What would you want to do? Do not say your freaking horses. Say something else.
SPEAKER_00Why would I not?
SPEAKER_07But that's like the obvious answer. Give us like an interesting answer.
SPEAKER_02Um, if I could be the best at something, I would that would be like for TikTok.
SPEAKER_01That's a good question.
SPEAKER_07I think you know what mine would be? Yeah, what would we do? Super random. I would love to be one of those, and you've probably not seen him, but there's just like dads that mow their lawn and just make their lawn so good.
SPEAKER_02Have you seen the guy that will like poke things? Like if he has a dead spot, he'll like get a screwdriver and stab it and find a massive boulder, and then he re-he'll dig out the boulder and then he redoes his lawn and it looks so good.
SPEAKER_07No, I've not seen that.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_07But I would love to be that. You just go outside and just work on your lawn every day.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I actually I've seen the guy, he like does like designs in his grass.
SPEAKER_07There's one guy I've seen who literally has one patch of grass in the front, and he just it sits between like his the driveway and the sidewalk. It's not that big, it's probably like six feet by six feet, and he just makes that look perfect, and like that's all he does. It's kind of weird. I would love that.
SPEAKER_02I would if I could be an artist, an artiste, like a painter, like watercolor paint.
SPEAKER_07You just paint horses all day?
SPEAKER_02No, I would paint like whatever I wanted. Maybe horses.
SPEAKER_07Are you good at it? Have you tried it?
SPEAKER_02No, I'm a horrible painter. I'm a horrible drawer. I I can't even draw like a stick figure.
SPEAKER_07Well, maybe you should try it because you obviously have the patience to sit there and do that. Maybe you could do some art.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, because this doesn't really like all you have to do is put some. That does require some skills, stick it on.
SPEAKER_07But there the lines and everything.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I did mess up.
SPEAKER_07Because you do one by one though, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I've messed up on it, but that's a lot. Yeah. No, like if I could be like a really good painter. Like Monet.
SPEAKER_07Oh, okay, great.
SPEAKER_02The water lilies.
SPEAKER_07Okay. That's so you would just sit there and paint? Would you have it just behind you painting all the time, like a camera, and you're just like doing that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_07That'd be cool. Alright, should we do um a judge and jury?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_07We actually had three rid-ins this week.
SPEAKER_01Slay.
SPEAKER_07This one's a long one. Okay. Here we go.
SPEAKER_02Wait, did you just restart that camera? Okay, I was gonna say there's five minutes left on this timer.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it's restarted.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_07So I could really use some help. Before I ask I ask the question, let me tell you some background. I've been married for 20 years. Dang. Both his parents have passed, and all he has remaining is his aunt and her three kids. So cousins. We are not okay, we are not close with his family, but do attend every holiday with them. My husband and I are close with my cousin on my dad's side. Our families regularly get together. We also take family trips every year. Honestly, I consider her my best friend. My cousin has a stepsister, no relation to my side of the family. My cousin's stepsister is marrying my husband's cousin. My cousin has had a huge falling out with her stepsister. I haven't talked um I haven't talked in two years. She is not attending the wedding. But the wedding date falls on our family vacation with my cousin. My husband says we're going to the wedding, but I believe my cousin was right in the argument and we should skip the wedding and go on our family vacation. What should I do? She said, also, I like to add that I've been at my husband's family. Wait, crap, I just lost it. Um, I would like to add that I've been at my husband's family holidays and always hear that them talking bad about my cousin. So, what should she do?
SPEAKER_02Okay. Did you keep it short? I'm a little lost with the relations, but I I understand the gist.
SPEAKER_07It's she's close with the cousin, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, her cousin is marrying her.
SPEAKER_07Then the step step brother. So we have the husband, their family, they're close with the cousin. They're close to the cousin. Then they have a step cousin or step sibling or something, right? Stepcousin? That they used to be close with, but now they're not.
SPEAKER_02Because they got into a fight.
SPEAKER_07Yes.
SPEAKER_02But there's a who who is marrying who? Because I thought they were getting married, but they're they got into a fight.
SPEAKER_07So um. So it's the my cousin's stepsister is marrying my husband's cousin.
SPEAKER_02So the stepsister and the girl's cousin, who she is close with, got into a fight.
SPEAKER_07Huh?
SPEAKER_02Oh, damn.
SPEAKER_07So, okay, okay, okay. The big the family in the middle. We have the cousin on her side side that they're close with. Yes. Then there's the step-cousin family to that side. It's like keep going down that line.
SPEAKER_02And no, I thought the step cousin was the brother on the brother or on the husband's side.
SPEAKER_07No, no, that's the cousin on the husband's side. That's getting married. Right?
SPEAKER_02We gotta stop saying cousins and stuff. Like I it's lost to all meaning. Like, we gotta come up with a different word.
SPEAKER_07Okay, okay, okay. Like our families radiate each other. We honestly take family trips. That's their cousins.
SPEAKER_02The husband's cousin. Aunt, the husband's aunt.
SPEAKER_07Hmm. I remember to win both his parents have passed. All is remaining is his aunt and her three her three kids, cousins. Okay. We're not close with his family, but do attend every holiday with them.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so okay, so his family.
SPEAKER_07My husband and I are close with my cousin.
SPEAKER_02Her cousin.
SPEAKER_07Uh yes, her cousin.
SPEAKER_02Okay, this is her, this is him.
SPEAKER_07Yes. And that is on the dad's side. So our families rarely get together. So they're very close with that family.
SPEAKER_02Right. They're close with her family.
SPEAKER_07Honestly, I consider her my best friend. My cousin has a stepsister. So that close family. So stepsister. Has a stepsister.
SPEAKER_02The pinky.
SPEAKER_07My cousin's stepsister is marrying my husband's cousin on the other side. So this family's getting mixed.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so pinky's going over here.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, pinky to thumb. That's it. Here we go. Now we got some clarity. Then my cousin, okay. My cousin has had a huge falling out with her stepsister.
SPEAKER_02Okay, I got it. I got it. I got it.
SPEAKER_07We good. So it's like they're still close with that one part of the family, but then her cousin's not. And so their loyalties feel like it's to the cousin.
SPEAKER_02To the cousin. And anytime they're around the stepsister and his side of the family, they're talking crap on the cousin who's her bestie. Okay.
SPEAKER_07Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER_02We got it.
SPEAKER_07And so then they're supposed to go on a family vacation with the cousin during the wedding of the step one. That's tough because the husband still has a connection with the cousin on his side.
SPEAKER_02On his side.
SPEAKER_07That's getting married to the step sister.
SPEAKER_02Right. But if you're not close, like if you're closer with your cousin and you feel like she's right in the argument, go with the cousin. I'd skip the wedding.
SPEAKER_07You skip the wedding. You're gonna be loyal to the cousin.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, especially if they're not close. It would be one thing if they were like really close and she's like, I don't know what to do because we're close with both. But she even said, She's like, We're not close with them. We don't see them unless it's a holiday.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_07I don't know.
SPEAKER_02And or maybe you go like a day late to the family vacation.
SPEAKER_07What if the I I we don't know when the wedding sits during the family vacation because it could be in the middle of it. But I would say.
SPEAKER_02I don't know, Ben.
SPEAKER_07But if there's already issues, this is my thing.
SPEAKER_02I'm a lawyer, I'm a loyal girl. Yeah. So if she's closest to the cousin and like that is her bestie, and she feels like she is right, I would not go to the wedding. Yeah, they should be. I would go with the my bestie.
SPEAKER_07I agree. The question is if the cousin is gonna be offended, like the best friend is gonna be offended if they go to the wedding instead of going on the vacation.
SPEAKER_02She probably will be.
SPEAKER_07So in that case, I would be, I would probably go talk to which is the husband's cousin that's getting married and be like, hey, sorry, we already had this planned. Sorry, can't go. Like, here's your gift.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Good. Yeah. Golden.
SPEAKER_02Great. And honestly, they're probably not even sweating it because they're they know that she's besties with the girl that they had a big falling out with.
SPEAKER_07And so they're probably don't want any drama anyway at their wedding.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they're probably like, okay, who cares? Bye.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, like they're unfortunately, you're probably not gonna be that missed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Like, no, I think back at my wedding.
SPEAKER_02It's like your husband is in the wedding party and he's like the best man. Who cares?
SPEAKER_07But it doesn't sound like they're that close. They only see each other. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02That's what I'm saying. So yeah, you won't be missed.
SPEAKER_07I mean, I like to think I can remember what like cousins of mine went to the wedding, to my wedding. No, I can't remember. I think I'm I think all of them went maybe. Maybe some missed. Who knows? But it's okay. I'm not offended if they weren't there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I'm I'm pretty close with some cousins. I'm not super close with all of them. But for my wedding, like if they were like, I'm so sorry, I can't come, I'd be like, Okay.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Great. Like I think it would be. One less person I have to feed.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I'd be maybe a little offended if my brother or my sister were like, no, I'm not coming. I had to go on vacation. I'd be like, okay.
SPEAKER_02I wasn't invited actually. I'm I'm probably the closest with this cousin. And mind you, we're not like we're close, but we're not like besties. Like, I'm not like hang out them all the time. Yeah. But I wasn't invited to her wedding, and I wasn't like balling my eyeballs out, being like, oh my gosh, how dare she?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, okay. Because this is the other thing too. And I'm not saying I'm gonna do this if you're watching and you're my cousins. If I ever get married, if I want it to be so small, like I don't even know who I'm gonna invite. You might not make the list.
SPEAKER_07I might not make the list.
SPEAKER_02No, you'll make the list because you're married to Megan. But like some of my cousins, I don't speak to them. Like, I I only see them once every 10 years at a family reunion. Yeah if that. So it's like if I haven't spoken to you in the last eight months to a year, you're most likely not coming to the wedding.
SPEAKER_07Wow. You're kind of mean.
SPEAKER_02Call me ruthless, but sorry.
SPEAKER_07But no, weddings are expensive. And having to feed random people you don't talk to.
SPEAKER_02I want to do a destination wedding.
SPEAKER_07Oh, really? Where? What's your destination?
SPEAKER_02Well, okay. How much money do I have?
SPEAKER_07A lot.
SPEAKER_02Italy. Lake Como.
SPEAKER_07Oh my gosh. Okay. Come back down to Earth a little bit.
SPEAKER_02You said a lot.
SPEAKER_07Okay, like a normal amount.
SPEAKER_02Well, what's a normal amount?
SPEAKER_07Um a Michael's gala normal amount, which is great.
SPEAKER_02I don't even know what that is. I don't I have no idea how much my sister's weddings cost.
SPEAKER_07I don't even know how much our wedding costs, which I'm very grateful.
SPEAKER_02I tell Michael every day you better pinch those pennies till they bleed.
SPEAKER_07Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02To get me my wedding.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I fear for your wedding.
SPEAKER_02I fear for my wedding too.
SPEAKER_07But let's be honest, it's gonna be such a celebration. Everyone's just gonna be happy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no. Michael will be like, finally, she's off the payroll.
SPEAKER_07Please take this, take my house, take everything.
SPEAKER_02Like he yeah. No, um, yeah, a lot of people aren't gonna make the cut to my wedding. Yeah, so I feel like this And if you have kids, like you can bring your kids because they're like my kids too. But like my cousins and their kids, or like my friends and their kids, no kids allowed.
SPEAKER_05Oh wow.
SPEAKER_02Unless they're my kids. Like your kids, Emily, Rachel's kids. Those are the only kids that will be permitted to be at the wedding. Unless you have like a newborn infant that you physically cannot leave.
SPEAKER_07Wow.
SPEAKER_02But like no toddlers.
SPEAKER_07You thought about this a lot.
SPEAKER_02What else am I gonna do with my day? My whole wedding's planned.
SPEAKER_08Just missing the guy. That's it.
SPEAKER_02I just gotta find the groom. So if you're a groom or you're like a single guy and you want to get married in like Como, it's like a really hot girl.
SPEAKER_07And then when she dies, we'll put the really hot picture on a billboard.
SPEAKER_02Exactly.
SPEAKER_07Um, anyway, back to this person.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, back to her.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, go on the trip, just go give the present beforehand, talk to the cousin, and call good. Yeah. I don't like uh I don't see an issue with that. Yeah, be loyal to the person that's loyal to you. Yeah. And it's fine. I agree. Okay. All right, another one. Summertime equals vacations and lovely family reunions.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_07My in-laws family reunion is this summer. I'm not particularly close with my in-laws. We live states away from everyone, but the pressure and guilt is on for everyone in the family to attend this event. At minimum, it will cost our family at least six thousand dollars.
SPEAKER_03Dang.
SPEAKER_07We also have kids who are involved uh in a in a lot, so carving out a week in their busy summer to make this happen is a big sacrifice. My father-in-law is beyond stingy with his money and often talks about how he has so much money he doesn't even know what to do with it.
SPEAKER_02But you're that's tough.
SPEAKER_07But yeah, he would never offer to fund this reunion for everyone. I'm frustrated because it feels like I'm being mandated to attend an event at a local at a location I would never pick with people I'm not even close with and give up money and time for it. What would you do? Thanks.
SPEAKER_02So this one's tough.
SPEAKER_07This one's tough.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's hard, especially when you have a big family like that, and you have to pay for it. So, this is like what my dad's family does they will throw out like a few dates, like two or three, and whatever majority can make it, they go with that date. And if you make it, great. If you can't make it, great. And they're very good about being like we hope everyone can come. Because this is the thing you like there will be no date that every single person can work with.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And especially if your kids are in sports or they have like other commitments. And honestly, if you don't want to pay the six grand, that's a lot.
SPEAKER_07That is a lot. I'm gonna come, I'm obviously gonna take the other side as I usually do.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_07I I just have a lot of questions on how old the kids are, because if like they're young and they're doing a lot of stuff, like that's great, and I understand that's good for them to do, but like missing a week from a couple games or whatever it is, is not that big of a deal. Um, it seems like a big deal at the moment. I remember feeling like that was if I missed a game, it was huge, but like in reality, it doesn't matter. Um, and then six thousand dollars is a lot to drop. My my one thing is if you don't ever see the father-in-law or see that family much, like I just think how many more days do you ever have seeing them? That's true. And like if you want your kids to maybe know your father-in-law before, you know, unfortunately, maybe he passes away or something, especially live states away.
SPEAKER_02And maybe you have your husband go to his dad and be like, Hey, like, we can't swing the six grand, so yeah, you have so much money a little bit.
SPEAKER_07Stop pinching your pennies, but are you gonna spend them in your grave? Like, what's going on?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and if he if he is kind of making it mandatory, then I would be like, listen, like we have some other commitments, yeah. Maybe help us out a little bit. Maybe he doesn't have to pay for the whole thing, yeah. Maybe just flights or lodging or something, whatever. Just a little helping.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Because it is a that's a lot of money. And especially I know with how much kids stuff costs now, yeah, it's insane. So um, I that's what I would do. I would say, yeah, maybe go talk to the hut the the dad, the father-in-law, and have your husband do it. And if he has if he always talks about how much money he has, be like, like dad, like come on, you're making us miss and also spend six grand, like use some of that money you have to maybe cover something.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's what I would do.
SPEAKER_07And then I think you gotta go. I think if your kids are not like in high school where missing something like that is gonna like tank or yeah, unless they're in like a summer camp.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like what not like spring training. What is that that like they like actually like cannot miss like once you're on like the high school team?
SPEAKER_07Like football has that, like you know, summer camps and stuff, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Unless it's something like that, but if they're little, yeah, it's fine.
SPEAKER_07I just think you know, if you're never seeing them, I agree.
SPEAKER_02If you hardly see them, maybe just be like, we really want to come. Yeah, we might need some help.
SPEAKER_07Or maybe don't go the whole time. Maybe see if you can go a couple days. That's what I would do. Do you agree with me?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I actually do.
SPEAKER_07That's actually surprising. You usually don't agree with me when I come from the other side. Um, all right, we have one more.
SPEAKER_02Let's hear it.
SPEAKER_07System says, please give me advice.
SPEAKER_03All right.
SPEAKER_07My fiance's family has been brutal about our wedding.
SPEAKER_03Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_07We've been engaged a year, and not once has his family said they're happy for us.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_07It has felt like everything they are willing to help with, they sabotage.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_07They told us to use their flowers for our pictures, then we would we went to use them, and they had been dead for weeks.
SPEAKER_02Wait, what do you mean use their flowers? Like from their garden or something?
SPEAKER_07I'm not sure, probably. Or like they offered flowers and then they were dead.
SPEAKER_02Then they were dead, okay.
SPEAKER_07His stepmom has said publicly that she does not like me over something that supposedly happened in middle school. Uh then his siblings planned their baby blessing the week of our wedding, when the baby was born six months ago. I'm going crazy. Please send advice. I've tried everything, but it's just hurtful. That is kind of wild.
SPEAKER_02That is crazy. First of all, your stepmom or stepmother-in-law sounds like a freak. If she's mad at you from something you did when you were in middle school, like you're a child.
SPEAKER_07That's insane. Middle school Zach? Yeah. Um, he was a psycho.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, as all middle schoolers are.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. If you're if I was getting married and I was something was being held over my head for something I did back then, that's what I want to know is does your fiance see it?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I'm at it.
SPEAKER_07Oh my gosh. Please, I do not want to do another freaking.
SPEAKER_02No, Emily's not here, so it's it won't be contagious.
SPEAKER_07Okay, good.
SPEAKER_02Um, I want to know if your fiance sees it and like where he stands with it. Cause if he's like, no, or if he's like, yeah, they're crazy.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, those are some pretty big things to do.
SPEAKER_02And like to plan a baby blessing over top six months after the baby was born.
SPEAKER_07Over top of the wedding.
SPEAKER_02That's some pretty crazy work. Like they don't like you. And sounds like they said it publicly.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. That's pretty crazy. I honestly.
SPEAKER_02Do we think we can hear them banging around in the kitchen?
SPEAKER_07Probably.
SPEAKER_02Like, are they for real right now?
SPEAKER_07I don't know what's going on. We're almost done, too. I hope people can't hear that. And someone, I think that's your dad's heavy footsteps above us.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh, he stomps around. You could hear him coming from a mile away.
SPEAKER_07Literally. Our neighbors probably think it's an earthquake every morning.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_07Um, but yeah, this one's kind of crazy. I don't know what I would do in this situation.
SPEAKER_02Honestly, be like, you guys don't seem happy for us. You don't seem supportive, so don't come. Unless you can be supportive, we don't want you involved in the wedding, we don't want you around.
SPEAKER_07I need to know what the fiance, future husband, is thinking. That's what I'm missing from this. Because if he's just kind of going with it, that's kind of a rat red flag in itself, too.
SPEAKER_00Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_07Because I'd want him to be saying something. Oh, here comes.
SPEAKER_02Hi, Michael. Hi Michael.
SPEAKER_07We needed a good picture. Yes, Michael. Okay, well, we're about to leave too.
SPEAKER_02Um it's just so hard because I need much more context. But if I was in that position, what would you do? I would get the fiance and have a sit-down with the stepmom and the husband, and just be like, listen, we can't keep going on like this, and like try to work it out. I always think you need to try to work it out, give a lot of grace.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And unless they are so unreasonable, I don't know.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. I do say you guys are good at just like airing everything out, not holding it in. So maybe this is this is definitely a situation where you might have to like, I don't know how you've you've told people this.
SPEAKER_02Well, I would just go to the stepmom and be like, what's this? What did I do? Like, tell me what I did in middle school. Yeah, like how can you hold that about? I apologize for whatever I did in middle school. Why don't you like me? You've said publicly you don't like me. Yeah, I like this one's kind of stumping me because maybe they're trying to sabotage, they're being sabotaged.
SPEAKER_07That's what she's saying. Like, who would say, Yes, I'll give you flowers for your was it for the wedding or for the pictures? Yeah, for the pictures, and then you show up and they're dead. Like, that is weird.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's not a good sign. I really, I really need to know how the fiance is handling this.
SPEAKER_07Because if that was my family, yeah.
SPEAKER_02What would you do if it was your family?
SPEAKER_07I'd be so angry. Well, I don't like Diane would never do this, but if my mom promised flowers for Megan for our wedding pictures, and we show up and they're freaking dead.
SPEAKER_02Or if you found out that like Diane was going around town being like, Yeah, I don't like Megan.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, like what would you do? That's kind of like hard for me to even imagine, but I would be angry. And I I mean, as people know, I'm very uh loud and protective about Megan with certain things, yeah. So I would not be happy, and I would just be like, Let's just go freaking elope or do something, yeah, and just go get married and like forget all this because this is not gonna be worth it to deal with people trying to sabotage it.
SPEAKER_02But then once you're married, does it change?
SPEAKER_07I mean, yeah, at that point you can go do your own life, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but that's his dad. Yeah, but and I'm always gonna be on the side of like you gotta work it out with family, family's family. Stepmom, crazy bit, she's not actually family, but the dad, like that's his dad.
SPEAKER_07But I I get that, but like the son can still call his dad and talk to him, can go still go to lunch with him. Like, they don't need to have the full family circle involved in that.
SPEAKER_02But then what happens like when they have kids?
SPEAKER_07People, they'll be fine, but this is not cool.
SPEAKER_02Like, no, it's not cool. That's why I'm so that's my point. You have to set a line should they should like try to talk it out, have like a little meeting, or maybe the fiancé just needs to like the guy just needs to talk to the dad and be like, you get your freaking crazy chick under control because it's not even his mom.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_02Like, he could lay down the law with that chick.
SPEAKER_07Because you're saying, what about when they have kids? What if they had kids and you have this stepmom? You do not want that lady around your kids. You gotta put her in her place now because that lady's gonna be trying to like do something.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so here's here's my other question like sabotage and pull them away. Would if this was happening, because like I've dated guys where like my family's like not that jazzed about them, and it like completely ruins it for me. Like, I can't date somebody that my family doesn't approve of. So at what point is it my family's crazy, or is it are they protecting you?
SPEAKER_07I know that's tough. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Because like, would that ever be like, okay, Mike, maybe this is a red flag, like maybe I should like reevalu, reevaluate some things, or is it just like no, the stepmom is a psycho and she's not gonna like anybody?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I think I think the line comes when if you like say something to your family and be like, no, I'm I'm not being crazy, like this isn't and and they don't respect that, then it's kind of like all right, then I need to pull away from them a little bit. Like, yeah, with Megan, my family never say anything bad about Megan ever, but they were like slow.
SPEAKER_02Well, because you guys got married like the next day.
SPEAKER_07Well, also, and we had just been both engaged, yeah. And they were all so they were like, Well, is this like a rebound thing? Are you guys like what's going on here? And they were trying to not say anything bad, but like kind of warned me in a way of like you're moving too fast.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, we did the same thing, and I was just like I told Shannon she was bat S H I T to pay for an October wedding, yeah. And for us it was like But good thing you guys got married in October because then COVID hit.
SPEAKER_07I know, and I was just like, this is what I want to do, and I know this is this is the like that's who I want to be with forever, and so it's just that was an easy decision for me. And it's like I can say that to my family and kind of shut that down, and then luckily everything was good and everyone respected that, but like I know there was a lot of like what is he doing, and I know there were some conversations behind closed doors, but right I think that the fiance's gotta kind of step up here unless maybe he has, but if he has and he and he's said things and they're not like respecting that, that's when I feel like maybe destination wedding or or like mean just like elope, elope, getting away and going to do their own thing. That's when I'd be like, all right, this is I agree with that. Leave this is not good.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so whoever this person is, she needs to rewrite and give us an update of like whether what her fiance is up to in all this.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I need to know what he's saying and how he's handling his family.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and like maybe they've already like tried to talk and like work things out, and it's just like not getting better.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then at that point, I would be like, Dad, you're invited to the wedding, crazy stepmom, see ya, take a hike.
SPEAKER_07Okay, maybe he's he's close to this crazy stepmom.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I sure hope not for how she's treating his fiance.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, but it sounds like they've been together for a long time or like have known each other, or maybe their high school sweethearts since they're six years old.
SPEAKER_02So, yeah, if she did something in middle school, I mean the audacity. Yeah, how dare a middle schooler like live their lives?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I just saw a video of you in middle school yesterday. Okay, that was the funniest video I think we've ever seen. No, me in middle school singing, what was it, Jordan Sparks?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was like living my life on photo booth. And I thought I was like such a good singer, and so I would record myself on photo booth.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you thought you were gonna be a star.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, and then I would listen to it back, and I was like, I'm pretty sure everyone did that.
SPEAKER_07At one point, you had to discover if you were good at singing or not. So you had to sing once because in the car you feel like you're amazing. Oh when you're listening to it.
SPEAKER_02I sound exactly like Taylor Swift.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. And then you listen to it back, and your whole life is shattered. Yeah. Because you're not gonna be a star. Anyway, um that's it.
SPEAKER_02That's it.
SPEAKER_07Do you want to wrap us up?
SPEAKER_02I don't really remember what we talked about.
SPEAKER_07Wait, should we do these more often?
SPEAKER_02Now that you're here, like what do you mean?
SPEAKER_07Like two week instead of one?
SPEAKER_02Sure.
SPEAKER_07I don't know. Would people want that though? Is that just too much of us?
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_07And we could do like the other one could be different, more of like a pop culture thing or something. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_07I don't know. I'm just thinking of ideas.
SPEAKER_01I'm down for whatever.
SPEAKER_07Alright. End it for us.
SPEAKER_01Let me fix my hair.
SPEAKER_07Oh my gosh, just please end this.
SPEAKER_02And that is the end of our episode on Legally Friends. Follow us anywhere you listen to Spotify.
SPEAKER_08Anywhere you listen to Spotify? Freaking idiot.
SPEAKER_02I hate myself.
SPEAKER_08You would be the worst newscaster ever.
SPEAKER_02I really feel like I would be good. No, because they have a teleprompter. I'm just going off the top of my head.
SPEAKER_08You're a good reader? Just kidding. Yeah. Should we test it? Yeah, we should.
SPEAKER_02Okay, anyway. And that is our episode on Legally Friends. Follow us. You listen anywhere you get. Okay. Damn it.
SPEAKER_08Go. Hurry.
SPEAKER_02Uh, okay. And that's the end of our episode.
SPEAKER_08Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Don't laugh.
SPEAKER_08I'm not.
SPEAKER_02Okay. And that's the end of our episode on Legally Friends. Follow us anywhere you listen to podcasts, Spotify, Apple, YouTube, but or else. That's it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, and that's our show. See you next week. No? Bye. Was that not good?
SPEAKER_07That was great. Great. Breaking news.
SPEAKER_02Breaking news.
Podcasts we love
Check out these other fine podcasts recommended by us, not an algorithm.