Legally Friends

Episode 20: [Unfiltered] Amy Bought a Horse, Zach Graduated, and Family Chaos Took Over

Legally Friends Season 1 Episode 20

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Amy and Zach are back with a full chaos recap of Zach’s graduation weekend in Charlottesville. They talk family sleepover madness, Dean and Weston stealing the show at graduation, Amy’s Chanel flip flop injury, Black Cow dinner drama, fishing in designer shoes, and Zach feeling sentimental about leaving Darden.


Amy also reveals that she bought a horse, which leads to horse name debates, barn drama, chickens, ticks, dating red flags, Snap Score stalking, phone snooping, and two new Judge & Jury submissions.


Should Amy name her horse Ace? Should Zach and Megan get chickens? And who is right when someone cancels on a destination wedding three weeks out because their dog is sick?

SPEAKER_00

Welcome back to Legally Friends. We are your hosts, Amy and Zach, and it's an amazing week, if I do say so myself.

SPEAKER_01

An amazing week?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was an amazing week. From last week.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's true. It was a fun week.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if how much fun you actually thought it was, but like we had a blast.

SPEAKER_01

No, I did have fun. I'd say today I'm not in the I don't know, the best mood.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-oh. What happened?

SPEAKER_01

No, we can talk about it later, but just house drama.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_01

Megan and I just battling back and forth on some stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know how that goes. But last week was fun.

SPEAKER_00

Be honest. On a scale of one to ten, how happy were you when me, Michael, and Shannon got up at 4 a.m. and left you guys alone?

SPEAKER_01

I was so happy I didn't go back to sleep.

SPEAKER_00

You were up partying for the rest of the night.

SPEAKER_01

I actually didn't go back to sleep. I went to the gym after that. I kind of fell back to sleep. But um no, I was excited to have my room back because we gave up our bed for Michael and Shannon, and I hadn't used my bathroom, my closet. It was just nice to have my space back.

SPEAKER_00

If there's one thing about us, like we're gonna come in and we're gonna take over and we're gonna make ourselves right at home.

SPEAKER_01

I know that it was the day after. I was laying on the couch and I was like, wow, it feels good to sit on my couch again because it was purely dominated by Amy laying down on it, and then it would be your dad sitting in the corner and then Shannon on the other side. So and our couch isn't that big, so there was no room for anybody else.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so let's look at that.

SPEAKER_00

Let's explain, let's explain the sleeping situation. So you and Megan were so so kind, and you gave your room to Michael and Shannon. The old folks, and then me, Megan, and Dean all slept in Dean's room.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, but and Dean had a little side bed.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We took we took the crib mattress out of Weston's old crib, and so Dean slept on the mattress next to our mattress, and then you and Weston slept in Weston's room.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and so we have queen beds in each of the kids' rooms. Yeah, so it wasn't like terrible, but it was still, you know, I didn't sleep too great, especially with Weston. He keeps you up all night long because he's always touching you and smacking you in the face and sleeps weird.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, it was nice to sleep in my own bed again.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, me and Megan had a great time. You know, it really just took me back to when we shared a bed all growing up. And so I loved it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I loved walking by your room and seeing you rocking yourself to sleep every five seconds, you know?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I know. I do do that, but you know, does anyone else ever do that?

SPEAKER_01

I've never heard of someone doing that until I met you. Like I'm very curious to are there other people that rock themselves to sleep.

SPEAKER_00

I personally don't know anybody who rocks themselves to sleep, besides myself, obviously. But I do know that there are other people who do it because when I I was little, like when I was like a baby, Shannon saw that I was doing it, and she was like, Uh-oh, is there something wrong with this thing? So she took me to the pediatrician, and the pediatrician was like, Oh no, that's normal.

SPEAKER_01

Like she's got lots of issues.

SPEAKER_00

You're so rude. No. My amazing pediatrician was like, No, that's normal. She's just self-soothing.

SPEAKER_01

So you're always self-soothing. You must have a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00

I just like I'm trying to like regulate my nervous system or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Are you just constantly under stress? And so you're always just having to soothe yourself.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's not even stress. It's just like when I'm just sitting there, I just like I always have to be moving. So it's either I'm like jiggling my leg or I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I just like Do you do the finger thing? I feel like Megan does that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I go like this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Or like I'm constantly popping my knuckles, which Shannon hates. I don't know. I just feel like I always have to be moving. So, like, like I don't know. Even when I'm sitting on the couch, I just like want to rock, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Back to the Virginia trip though.

SPEAKER_00

Uh yes.

SPEAKER_01

So, okay, so they everyone came in town. It was very nice of you all to come to celebrate.

SPEAKER_00

I came for graduation, which was great. That was a big day.

SPEAKER_01

You guys got in on what a Wednesday night, and then you left first thing Tuesday morning. So a solid was almost a week, six days.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so what was your favorite part of the trip?

SPEAKER_00

Ooh, my favorite part of the trip was okay. I have two, I have a twofer.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um graduation day, watching Deanny and Wesie in their little cute cap and gowns go across the stage with you.

SPEAKER_01

I thought you were gonna say me, but I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, you were kind of a part of it because like they walked across the stage with you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that was cool.

SPEAKER_00

Like, that was just so cute. And when I was in like the little drop-off zone, the amount of people that were like, oh my gosh, that is the most adorable thing. One of the like university like staff was like, Can I take a picture of the back of them? She's like, I'm not gonna post it anywhere, but I want to take a picture of the back of them for next year's graduation.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_00

And I was like, Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_01

Um little they know, they're already employed, and this is part of their part-time job. Just kidding. Posting for pictures.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, what was oh, the my other favorite part was um when we went to Burger Night at the country club.

SPEAKER_01

Burger Night is the best. So for people who don't know, obviously everybody, there's $5 Burger Night at the Country Club that we go to. And so we have not missed a Monday in like I don't know, this whole year. We go every night, every Monday. It's the best.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was really fun.

SPEAKER_01

No, that was a good time. And we just kind of sat and wandered around and hung out for a while for a while. So it was good. That was but that was your two favorite things. So what was your what was your least favorite then?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, well.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, so there's a lot of those.

SPEAKER_00

No, just my least favorite was when Michael made us go to that um battle. It wasn't a battle, but it was a historic site. I can't remember what it's called. Where they signed Gener I don't know what it's called, but General Lee signed his Confederate soldiers over to the Union to General Grant, who then later became the president of the United States.

SPEAKER_01

Nice.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm pretty sure he's on the $20 bill.

SPEAKER_01

So why was that your least favorite? Oh, because wait, Grant? No, Jackson's on the $20 bill.

SPEAKER_00

Is Grant on a bill?

SPEAKER_01

I don't think so. But I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

He should be. Anyway, whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I need to look.

SPEAKER_00

You look while I tell what happened. And it's not that going was my least favorite part. It's what happened. So you go to like the visitor center, and there's upstairs explains like the whole history of like it's a four-year war. It pretty much ended to the day four years later.

SPEAKER_01

The 50.

SPEAKER_00

I knew he was on one. Nice. Um, anyway, so we're upstairs, we're looking around, we're looking at all the like bayonets and like the stuff. And we're walking downstairs, and it's like these metal stairs. And I wore my Chanel flip-flops.

SPEAKER_01

I was not there. I was home with the kids. So I this is actually first time for me hearing the story, but keep going.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so I'm wearing my Chanel flip-flops, and they have zero traction on the bottom.

SPEAKER_01

It's just like Damn, for all that money you paid too. No traction?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no traction. So they're a little slippery. Like, remember, I kept slipping at fishing on the grass. I kept like, yeah. Anyway, so I I go to step on the first step, and I just like slip, like my feet like go out from under me. And I like try to catch myself, and something happened where I like jammed my foot into the metal stair, and then my toe, my middle toe, starts like gushing blood.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00

Did you did you see the top?

SPEAKER_01

I saw the picture. I saw the picture.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there was like a pool of blood in my Chanel flip-flop. It was devastating. But they're leather, so like Megan got a wiped, wiped it right off. It was totally fine. So my toe really freaking hurt. My my little toenail is like gonna come off, and it's like all my other toenails are like straight, normal looking, and then this one's like it's kind of like your face. You're such a bitch.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, that that looked really painful. I've lost a few nails in my day, and it is it hurts really bad.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so then that happened, and then we met you guys for dinner at that one place that was really good. I don't remember what it's called.

SPEAKER_01

Um Black Cow.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, if you guys are ever in Charlottesville, go to Black Cow because that was really good. Um, they sat us outside. It was at least 105 degrees.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, it's an exaggeration.

SPEAKER_00

It was hot and it was very so hot and so humid, and like I was already in pain because of my little toe. And like at one point, I was like trying not to like be dramatic because like I already had my dramatic moment with my toe at the historical site, and all the workers were like, Did you just fall down the stairs? And I was like, Don't look at me.

SPEAKER_01

Like, yeah, did you cry?

SPEAKER_00

No, I didn't cry, but like it really freaking hurt.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, so then we get to the restaurant, they seat us outside, it's hot as balls out there, and I'm like sitting on the end, like trying to like put on a brave face. At one point, I like legit genuinely thought I was going to pass out. So I ordered a lemonade because I was like, okay, maybe I just like need some sugar.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, when I heard that order, I was like, who ordered a lemonade? Like so random.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's because I thought I was gonna pass out, but I like didn't want to be dramatic because I'm like, this is Zach's graduation dinner. Thank you. So then I'm just like sick. Like, I was I was not well.

SPEAKER_01

So I remember I'm sitting there. I can't remember at what point the it was during the dinner, and I'm just like eating, and so it's the dinner setup at me. It's like a six-person table with Weston on the end. It goes, me, Megan, Amy, and then I think maybe Dean was on or Dean was on the other side, and then Shan and Mike will I can't remember. Mike, so I like look over. I didn't see Amy too much because like Megan was always blocking me, blocking you from me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I kind of like lean forward and I look at you. The amount of sweat on your top lips was insane. I was like, is she going to sh her pants right now or something? Because she looks terrible.

SPEAKER_00

No, you guys, I was sweating and I was like trying to just like breathe and be like, hey, it's okay. Like, you're okay. It's gonna be fine. Like, you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, no. And also, it was after you got up and went to the bathroom and then came back, and I that's when I saw the sweat on your lip. I was like, wow, that must have been a rough trip to the bathroom.

SPEAKER_00

No, it was honestly. It was. I was so stressed. Man, I was a little consty, okay. And I go to the bathroom. There's one bathroom.

SPEAKER_01

One like for men and women, or just like one stall?

SPEAKER_00

No, no, for men and women.

SPEAKER_01

You just destroyed it for everybody.

SPEAKER_00

No, I couldn't. I couldn't. I was so stressed because there was like a line and I felt like I was taking too long, and I was so stressed, and it was so hot in there. They didn't there's no AC in the bathroom. It was so hot. So when I came back out, I was like, I was sweating from the hotness, sweating from the stress of like everyone being like, that girl tried to go, but she couldn't. And I just was like, guys, we gotta get out of here.

SPEAKER_01

Like, so that's so funny. I mean, that is real though. It's like if you're in line and you know you have to go number two, and there's people waiting behind you, just like no, and then it's like, what am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_00

Open the door, and they're gonna be like, Whoa. Yeah, like no, I was just like, I I can't do this.

SPEAKER_01

So you just didn't work.

SPEAKER_00

No, and I already have I even have a hard time going pee in public restrooms. Like, if I can hold it, I will hold it until I get home. And so it just like I already didn't like it, and then I had the stress of like thinking I was gonna pass out, and then everybody in the line, I just was like, no.

SPEAKER_01

That is so funny, and so that's why the sweat was still just glazing on the face.

SPEAKER_00

I just like genuinely was not well.

SPEAKER_01

You were not doing good. That was funny.

SPEAKER_00

What is that tapping sound?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, there was a tapping sound. Okay, never mind. Oh, there it was.

SPEAKER_01

That uh I think it's someone doing construction outside.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, got it. Um yeah, that day was my least favorite day by far because just the toe, the hotness, the consty, just it was not good.

SPEAKER_01

That was funny. That was I'll never forget that face of just pure just defeat. Like sweat, the toe, not be able to go to the bathroom. Yeah, you were in a bad spot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I like genuinely was not well.

SPEAKER_01

Uh that was a good memory. What else happened during that week?

SPEAKER_00

Um my what was your favorite day? Well, the day we left.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, besides that. No, no, no. Really, though, it was a good time. There was no drama or anything, which was huge for me. And uh as long as this is chill, like it's great.

SPEAKER_00

The most drama was when my toe happened. Shannon was like huddled with Zach in the corner, being like, Zach, which ER should we take her to? Oh, yeah. And Zach was like, I don't think you need to take her to the ER for the toe. I was maybe for the sweats, not the toe.

SPEAKER_01

I was trying to be as nice as possible, and I just kept pushing it to Megan. I was like, I don't know, I've never been to the ER. So I've only been in the hospital, so maybe have Megan tell you. Because I was just like, I don't think she needs to go to the ER for this, but yeah, Shannon was very concerned that I was like gonna go septic. Yeah, it doesn't happen that quick, so I'll be alright. Um, my favorite though was okay, my dream days in Charlottesville are just going golfing and going fishing. And so there was one day where I got to take the boys golfing and no one wanted to go. Sorry. I think that was the day your dad just went on a drive to like to Shenandoah National Park.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh, can we talk about that? I don't blame him. He has like this list on his notes. Oh, he went always, yeah. I think he's now been to every national park. I think that's why he wanted to go so bad.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no. It was states. Actually, he went through the park, but he went all the way to West Virginia because he had never been to West Virginia before. So only yeah, so I think he has like five or six states left to hit, and so he was able to go cross West Virginia off his list. So that's why he did the drive.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And he's always wanted to see like Shenandoah or something, yeah. Which I had never even heard of Shenandoah until he was like, I'm gonna go to Shenandoah, and I was like Which I think he got there maybe and was disappointed with the mountains because you know, coming from Utah to that is a little different, and then he um just kept driving to West Virginia because there was just like one day where he kind of just disappeared for like five hours. Yeah, we were like, Where did he go? And then I looked at his location and he was like two hours away, and I was like, Okay, maybe he like needed to take a break from us.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't blame him. Um, but anyway, then that night though, he came back and then we went fishing, and it was fun. That was so fun, but on the way out there, this sense of just not wanting to be there was very strong from you and from Shannon. You guys you had major doubts about going there, and you guys thought it was gonna be so dumb.

SPEAKER_00

In our defense, I don't know what we were thinking. I've never been fishing before. That was my first time fishing. Oh, so I was picturing like some back alley swamp. That's what I was picturing. I don't know why. That's just kind of what I picture when I picture fishing, and so I was like, we're gonna go like in a swamp, and I I had to wear open-tote shoes because of my toe.

SPEAKER_01

That was before the toe, cutie.

SPEAKER_00

Oh well, I was wearing again, I was wearing my Chanel flip-flops.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, why did you wear those? But anyway, yeah, so yeah, Megan was in Chanel slippers, Shannon was in Chanel sneakers, you were in Chanel flip-flops. You guys are really dressed for fishing, but luckily And you know what?

SPEAKER_00

We all caught a fish on our own. My and remember when you were teaching me to fish and you were like, Do you want me to cast it out for you? And I was like, No, I'm gonna cast it and I'm gonna learn how to cast it. And then what did I do? I caught a fish. Well, maybe because Chanel flip-flops.

SPEAKER_01

A great teacher. You're welcome. Touch me how to do it.

SPEAKER_00

You didn't even, you just were like, pull this down, throw it, push it back up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and then the right speed, how to watch it, make sure it looks like it's swimming. Okay. Without that, you're not catching a fish.

SPEAKER_00

No, that is true. You are a good teacher, and you let me like really take over your fishing pole. Yeah, you didn't even catch a fish because I was so determined to catch a fish. I was like, I will stay here until I catch this damn fish.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I was making sure everyone else was set up right, and I'm glad I did because everybody caught a fish, which was amazing.

SPEAKER_00

Even Megan, that was her first time catching a fish, too. And she was also dead set on catching a fish.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because we had been like four or five times and she had never caught one. So she was dead set on catching one. Yeah, and it was funny though, because when we first got there, your mom was like, No, Megan, like, I know you really want to catch a fish, so you just fish. Because Shannon thought there was gonna be like one fish in the whole lake.

SPEAKER_00

Shannon thought there were like three fish.

SPEAKER_01

It was so funny.

SPEAKER_00

And then Megan Megan was like, Mom, like you try. And she was like, No, no, like I'll catch a fish too soon. So, like, you you catch your fish first.

SPEAKER_01

And we were like the cockiness behind her, too. Of just like, I'm just gonna catch, I'll catch it if I throw it. So, like, well, and you know what?

SPEAKER_00

She did.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

SPEAKER_00

I think she cast it out like twice, and then she caught her fish.

SPEAKER_01

Megan got one, Mike got one, you got one, and I was happy.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I think Michael got two.

SPEAKER_01

That's true. He did get he did catch two because that's right. He caught the first one, we didn't get the picture, the second one got the picture. Yeah, pretty good. That was a successful fishing day, and yeah, you guys were not hot about going there at all. You guys wanted to be there for like 20 minutes max and get out.

SPEAKER_00

But then guess who was the last one in the car? You were yelling across the lake, being like, Come on, sweetie, let's go.

SPEAKER_01

Fishing is very like therapeutic. Just like I was just out there and I was like, I'm reeling her in, sweetie, I'm reeling her in.

SPEAKER_00

Let me let me catch one more.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I didn't.

SPEAKER_00

I was really sad.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you know where the best place to go fishing is is in Utah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

Utah has the best places, it's amazing.

SPEAKER_00

Where do you go? Like in Utah Lake.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah. That's if you want your swampy disaster that you were talking about, go go to Utah Lake.

SPEAKER_00

Utah Lake is the nastiest thing I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_01

You never fish in Utah Lake.

SPEAKER_00

Provo River, are there even fish in there? I feel like they're like riddled with like chemical diseases, like nasty, massive carp.

SPEAKER_01

They're disgusting. Like fish you wouldn't even want to touch. Um, but yeah, I grew up every day my junior and senior year, like. The third and fourth term, I would always go to the Provo River and just fish after school.

SPEAKER_00

So, did you like because you know how like in fly fishing, you like get in the water? Did you do that? Or are you on the side or are you on like the bridge?

SPEAKER_01

I did both. Never never the bridge. I would do fly fishing and just I still go to the river, and you can use like the same poles we were using and just use like a spinner and reel it in, and it works. Um but fly fishing is the most fun. Uh anyway, so enough about fishing.

SPEAKER_00

But I was just glad it was a successful trip and everyone had a good time because it was really fun, but we should go fishing in Utah when you're here for like your 48 hours.

SPEAKER_01

You would do you'd want to go fishing in Utah?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I thought it was so fun in Virginia. I want to go fishing with the boys again. The boys made it the best part. They were so excited anytime anybody got a fish. They were like genuinely like so proud.

SPEAKER_01

That was the best thing, especially for Megan when she first she caught her first fish. They were cheering so loud.

SPEAKER_00

It was so yeah, they like ran up and gave a hug and they were like, We're so proud of you, mom. Good job, mama. Who we caught a fish.

SPEAKER_01

It was so cute.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they're so cute. I love them.

SPEAKER_01

What else from the trip was stood out? Um, graduation. You guys kept asking me a lot, like, oh, like, how do I feel? Like, am I so proud of myself?

SPEAKER_00

We just we really like to dissect, so it's like we wanted to dissect how you were feeling about graduating your 18 years of school.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I'm honestly just sad to leave here. I said that. I love Charlottesville, I loved having so much freedom to go and do what I want with the boys, and I know that's about to be gone. And I don't know when I'm ever gonna have that much freedom again in my life. So that's where I'm really sad. School, you know, I just really hope it pays off.

SPEAKER_00

It will.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I'm hoping for. Um, obviously, I'm happy with the job.

SPEAKER_00

And if anything, what you just said paid it off.

SPEAKER_01

The time with the boys.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. Your freedom, time with the boys, you guys like, I don't know. You guys had a really fun time in Virginia.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. And I think sometimes I'm like, do I wish I would have spent more time networking and meeting people outside of class? Because that's where you say you come to business school for. And I don't know, I'm really not good at that. And but sometimes I regret, like, oh, maybe I should have gone and done more things and hung out with people more. But at the same time, I had the best time with Dean and Weston. Just like we would go golfing. Most days we go fishing, especially this last year. We'd go do so many fun things together as a family where it's like, you know, if I didn't meet all these great people, or maybe I wouldn't form as close of relationships, maybe as I could have with some classmates, like that that's okay with me. Like, yeah, I had the best time with Dean and Weston. But yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I'm feeling a little sentimental. Like, I enjoyed, I enjoyed Darden. I enjoyed my time here, but I'm just like losing my freedom to go and do whatever I want. Every day is kind of kind of tough.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you're headed into corporate America.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I gotta watch what I say. You're gonna get me fired.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna write a letter.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I know. Or you're gonna say something crazy on the podcast and they're gonna hear it, and I'm gonna get fired. So you gotta be careful.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway.

SPEAKER_00

I just like I'm genuinely trying to think of like what we've said.

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't think we've never said anything crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Other than uh think we're crazy.

SPEAKER_01

That's debatable.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we're crazy in the sense of like we wear Chanel shoes fishing.

SPEAKER_01

That's true. That's true. Um, also, you're crazy in the fact that you just bought a horse.

SPEAKER_00

I did. I thought you would never bring it up.

SPEAKER_01

The the light that came to your face. You were so bored when I was talking. Like, I looked at you and you're just like, uh, I can't listen to this anymore. But then when I said the horse, oh just the light came in. Please tell us about your new purchase.

SPEAKER_00

I bought a horse yesterday. It was very exciting. I made Shannon go with me to IFA. At first, she hated it. She was like, I don't want to go to IFA. And I was like, You're coming to IFA.

SPEAKER_01

IFA is a great store.

SPEAKER_00

So I was just like off in the horse section, and Shannon was off in the chicken section. She was sending Megan videos of the little chicks because you guys want to get chickens in Texas.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, we need to get into that story too, but keep going.

SPEAKER_00

And she was sending Dean and Weston pictures and videos of like the motorcycles and like the little tractors that they have that you can ride on. It's just like it's an amazing store. We gotta go. The boys would love it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, IFA's a great store. I agree.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so we went to IFA, then I went and picked up my horse from Heber, and now he's in Provo, and I am like chomping at the bit, pun intended, to go down to my barn to see him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she even sent me a text last night saying, Oh, we need to do the podcast at 9 a.m. so I can get down there. I was like, Have you ever even woken up before 9 a.m.? But look at this new excitement.

SPEAKER_00

I know, I know. So yeah, I'm just like, I love him. I need a new name for him. I decided I'm not keeping Brazil just because like I don't like it. And it just doesn't roll off the tongue. Like I'm like, with my grain bucket, I'm like, Brazil, come here. It just like it doesn't, it needs to be one syllable. Like, I like how it's Duke, Max, Dash, kitty. I like no, not that. But I just like I just don't know what to name him. I've got to figure it out though. So sound off in the comments what I should name my horse.

SPEAKER_01

But isn't that bad luck?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, what if we Some people say it is, some people say it's not.

SPEAKER_01

But the poor guy, that's what he's known as his whole life. He's what, 15?

SPEAKER_00

No, I tested it yesterday. He doesn't even respond to his name.

SPEAKER_01

Hmm. Maybe, maybe he's kind of like you. He just chooses to make a ghost when he wants to.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe he hates it too, so he's like, I won't respond to that name until I find a name that I like.

SPEAKER_01

So you're just gonna keep testing names, keep sh just start shouting names at him until he comes.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, I don't know. Do you wanna do you wanna hear some of the names that I'm thinking of?

SPEAKER_01

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

He kind of looks like a moose. I was thinking moose.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. It's kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_00

But then that kind of doesn't roll off the tongue either.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

So honestly, I was thinking Duke. An honor, may he rest in peace. My dog Duke. But then I just don't know if he's a Duke.

SPEAKER_01

Because when I see Duke, now I picture of uh your lab.

SPEAKER_00

A lab, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And that doesn't mix.

SPEAKER_00

Let me go to my lit my list.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, I thought you do like Maverick or something like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, uh, but there are just so many horses named Maverick. What about Thor?

SPEAKER_01

I I don't know. I'm just not a big like super heroes. I like Zeus.

SPEAKER_00

Ace.

SPEAKER_01

Ace is Ace is my my pick.

SPEAKER_00

You like Ace?

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Chief.

SPEAKER_01

He looks like an ace to me.

SPEAKER_00

Gunner, Gus, Moose. Duke. Goose.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe I should name my next boy Ace.

SPEAKER_00

You could. Megan will never go for that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00

And it doesn't flow with Dean and Weston.

SPEAKER_01

Dean Dean West and Ace.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's like you have like two country clubbers, Dean and Weston. And then Ace.

SPEAKER_01

Are those really country club names? Dean and Weston?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they're more like preppy traditional, wouldn't you say?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I never really thought about it.

SPEAKER_00

You guys are country clubbers.

SPEAKER_01

I wish.

SPEAKER_00

You guys are like the snooty, polo wearing country clubbers who like to go golfing and fishing.

SPEAKER_01

Just because I like to golf doesn't mean I'm a snooty country clubber.

SPEAKER_00

No, you're not snooty, but country clubs do have like a rep of like being snooty.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I know. I know. I just love to golf. And I I really want my boys to golf. But anyway, back to your horse name. What are you gonna do? Right now, you have to make a decision. Give us the name.

SPEAKER_00

If I had to make a decision, like now, gun to my head, I would die. Because like I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Gun to my head. I really don't know. You can't just say one name.

SPEAKER_00

There's just nothing that I'm like, that's it, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Well I don't know. I'm thinking maybe maybe just say chat.

SPEAKER_01

Give me my name for my horse and take that one.

SPEAKER_00

Chat is the worst at giving names. It's so cheesy.

SPEAKER_01

Well, tell it that.

SPEAKER_00

I did, and it's like, okay, sorry, here's a new list. And I'm like, no, those suck too.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, well, you know what? You figured out your horse on your own time then.

SPEAKER_00

I think I'm leaning towards ace or what were the other ones?

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. Obviously, not very memorable if you can't think of it right now.

SPEAKER_00

I like Ace, Thor, Zeus, Gus.

SPEAKER_01

The entire list, thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You already read it. Gosh. You just literally pulled it up and said, Yeah, I think you know what? I really like, and then read the whole list again.

SPEAKER_00

No, I only read like four names. You were looking going. I don't know. I don't know. Uh I made this little friend yesterday at the barn. She was the cutest little girl. She's six years old. She just followed me around for like an hour or two. And she was just yapping my ear off. I loved it. She was giving me all the barn tea. There was some drama yesterday. She was filling me in on all the drama. Then I was talking to her mom. Turns out she went to high school with Taylor and Drew. So we made that connection. But I was asking her, like, what should I name my horse? And she was like, because I told her his name was Brazil. And she was like, Yeah. And I was like, yeah. Um, and she was like, I think you should name him Brownie. And I was like, Yeah. That's a really good name.

SPEAKER_01

Jerk. You're just so mean to the poor little six-year-old.

SPEAKER_00

But I don't think I wasn't mean. What?

SPEAKER_01

You versus six-year-old barrel racing. Who would win?

SPEAKER_00

Uh probably her. She's been riding longer than I have, so uh, we need to pick up the speed there. I know. That's that's why I have blank, my new horse, yet to be determined, his name. I just I just need to start building my confidence on him and going faster. I just like gotta send her. I just like need to find like an open field and like not because I I'm mostly worried about the turns. I think that's why I'm so scared. But I just like gotta start running.

SPEAKER_01

So I agree.

SPEAKER_00

We're gonna do that.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. Um what was the other story we're gonna tell? Oh yeah. Last week was um or was that this week? This was was that Monday when we went to the VR?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was Monday.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my um, how does this relate?

SPEAKER_00

Because we just brought that up, but oh, because I was talking about the chickens at IFA.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yes. So Megan is very determined to buy chickens, and I don't think she's prepared for how much work they are, especially if I'm not gonna be around to do much of it all the time. Um, but she really wants chickens to eat ticks.

SPEAKER_00

This is the thing that I'll say. I'm gonna interrupt you really fast.

SPEAKER_01

Please.

SPEAKER_00

Just like you just said how therapeutic fishing is, it sounds kind of gross, but honestly, like taking care of animals, maybe it's different for her because like she has children that she can take care of, and like that's therapeutic for her. But it's very therapeutic. Like yesterday I didn't come home until like 7 p.m. Cause I was just like hanging out in the stall. I was cleaning out his stall, cleaning out his water bucket, feeding him. Like doing all of that is at least for me, it's therapeutic. So maybe for Megan, like while the boys are at school, yeah, it'll be therapeutic for her.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe. I um, but it's just like then she's also gonna have more kids, and so like a baby, and then also trying to do that, that's gonna be a lot.

SPEAKER_00

Well, but by then Dean will be old enough that she'll be like, Dean, get out there, go muck the chicken stalls. Which I don't even think chicken stalls need to be mucked, do they?

SPEAKER_01

I don't even know what mucked means.

SPEAKER_00

Like mucking out a stall is when you clean out their shit from the stall and put down new shavings if you need it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you do. I think you do like once a week or once every couple weeks.

SPEAKER_00

Um you only do it once a week? Well, I guess they're they're isn't as big as a horse.

SPEAKER_01

I was reading on it. I think it's every once a week that you really need to go clean it out.

SPEAKER_00

That's not bad then. That's a Saturday chore for the boys.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that sounds great. But then there's like, what if you leave and you go out of town, then you have to have someone come get the chicken, I mean get the eggs every day and everything else. Like, it's just a lot. But anyway, so Megan really wants them though, because they eat, according to her, 300 ticks an hour per chicken. That's a lot of ticks.

SPEAKER_00

Um that's a lot of ticks.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway, so on Monday, we went bike riding at a field near here, and Dean, I think he went up into some bushes, but then he also climbed a tree.

SPEAKER_00

He loves to climb trees and like get in the dirt, and like he's just a boy.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, he's a very just loves to do anything to get dirty. Um, so he climbs up in a tree, and then we come home, and he was changing into a swimsuit, discovers a tick. He finds the tick in. The thing was so small, it was insane.

SPEAKER_00

So small. I thought it was like a crumb. I like wanted to like brush it off and be like, oh, that's just a crumb from like your goldfish or something.

SPEAKER_01

Insane. And I'm glad he found it, and obviously caused a lot of stress because Megan's also been stressed about ticks recently just because of all the news and well, and especially like where like you guys live, like the east.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there's a lot of ticks, and then yeah, a lot of ticks here.

SPEAKER_01

So then we end up going, we able to I pulled it out and I screwed it up. I did not get the head out. But there was and no blood came out, except I think it'd barely been in, which was good. And like the butt wasn't big, so supposedly if the butt gets really big and full of blood when it's been in there for a while. Um, so I think it just barely got in that day, and then I pulled it out. Freaking, I used tweezers. I guess you're supposed to put like alcohol on it or like put Vaseline around it so it suffocates and pulls its way out. That's what I should have done. Oh, my mom told me that after I should have called her before. So anyway, I pulled tweezers, and that thing was like so stuck in there, it was insane. I was pulling hard and it got anyway, finally come out, but head was left in. So we put in a bag, took him to the ER, they gave him some medicine, and then the lady tried to get it out. She couldn't get out the head. So, anyway, that caused Megan to be very stressed. Now she really wants a chicken coop. So if anyone has a chicken coop, tell us what you think. Like, is it worth it? Would you do it again? Is it too much work? Because we really don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Sound off in the comments.

SPEAKER_01

I hate it when you say sound off the comments. Oh, sorry. What do you want me to say? Let us know. I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_00

LMK on the chickens.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so that's that was the big drama this week. And supposedly we're gonna be getting some chickens in Texas. But we're gonna go visit some people's houses. I know a couple people that have chickens, and we're gonna go see what it's really like and have them kind of give us their perspective. But anyway, that wasn't the most interesting story, but that was a good one.

SPEAKER_00

You know who she should talk to is our aunt in Colorado. She had a lot of chickens, like a lot.

SPEAKER_01

Well, maybe she should. And you tell her that. So But we only want like four chickens, you know, four or five, four, four little hens, a little chicken coop. I think I want to be too bad.

SPEAKER_00

You know what you should do?

SPEAKER_01

What?

SPEAKER_00

You should get like what you just said, like three or four hens. Then you should get a rooster, and then you should have the rooster and the hen. I don't know like how they do it, but have the rooster fertilize the hen's eggs and then have baby chicks.

SPEAKER_01

No, thank you.

SPEAKER_00

That would be so cute though.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no. You don't want more, I don't want more, and also roosters can be mean. No, no, very mean.

SPEAKER_00

You just bring in the rooster to fertilize the egg and then you take it back to where it came from. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

But why do I want more?

SPEAKER_00

Maybe one of your neighbors has a rooster.

SPEAKER_01

What am I gonna do with more chickens? That means I need a bigger coop.

SPEAKER_00

They could have babies and it could be so cute.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah. Not gonna happen. Not gonna happen. Let's just hope we could handle four, which I'm not even sure we can. Um also, one thing from the trip though, was every time you at the dinner table or whenever we go eat, you always have a list of questions. Like, where did that come from?

SPEAKER_00

I just I love I love a dinner time game.

SPEAKER_01

Was it just because you feared we would have nothing to talk about?

SPEAKER_00

Or like no, no, I knew okay. Do you know us? We could talk to a brick wall.

SPEAKER_01

That's true, that's true.

SPEAKER_00

And we could sit there and talk to that brick wall and bring up old horses and beat them. You know, I really don't I really don't like that saying, like beating a dead horse.

SPEAKER_01

Like you love to say it though. You say it a lot.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's just like what else? Like, what other analogy or metaphor is there?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I don't know, but you love to say it. So, anyway, though, I decided I would bring some of those same type of questions today.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

To have you answer.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, okay, go.

SPEAKER_01

So, like these questions were a lot of, oh, if you could like go travel to one place, where would it be?

SPEAKER_00

Or No, that was your question. My question was who here at the table do you trust the least?

unknown

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You were asking some crazy ones, and it was like, what am I supposed to say?

SPEAKER_00

Which is so rude. You all said me. So rude. That was such a scapegoat answer.

SPEAKER_01

Are you kidding me? I'm gonna say, okay, the and the possibilities are my own kids, my wife, or my my uh mother-in-law and my father-in-law, and then you. Yeah, of course I'm gonna pick you.

SPEAKER_00

Scapegoat.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, say okay, say we're all sitting at the dinner table, the whole entire family. You have to answer that question. Who you who are you saying? Who you trust the least. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Probably.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Timer's out. You gotta answer. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

I trust everyone.

SPEAKER_01

Scapegoat answer. Oh, you have to answer it. You can't just say everybody.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, probably Rachel because she doesn't answer her phone. She doesn't answer her calls and she won't text you back. So probably her.

SPEAKER_01

Whoa. Before any of the brother-in-laws. I thought it was for sure gonna be one of the brother-in-laws.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I wasn't thinking of the brother-in-laws. I was just thinking of like the OGs.

SPEAKER_01

You freaking idiot. I said the entire family, and you thought I know, I just thought of like my family. Honestly, that explains so much of like how you guys operate. It's like it's insane.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Honestly, what Some of the reasons why Megan and I are battling right now.

SPEAKER_00

Why?

SPEAKER_01

Because it feels like she's building a house with you guys. Not me. It pisses me off.

SPEAKER_00

Because you always are like, I don't know, do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_01

Because I want Megan to decide what she wants, not what you or anyone else wants. What she wants.

SPEAKER_00

No, I know. I know. And I tell her that. I say, I know deep down you like one more than the other. So do which one you like more. But she she likes to get everybody's opinions.

SPEAKER_01

She, yeah, she really wants the validation from everybody.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So anyway, um, you went. I guess you went with Rachel. So that's good. That was a good answer.

SPEAKER_00

Um just because she doesn't answer her phone. And she doesn't really ever like leave her little bubble.

SPEAKER_01

Sure, we'll we'll say that. We'll say that's the reason.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, you want to know who my emergency contacts are?

SPEAKER_01

Who?

SPEAKER_00

Emily, Michael, and Shannon. Because I know they're always gonna answer their phones.

SPEAKER_01

That's true. That is true. So um, okay. My questions though were more like, would you rather? type of hypotheticals.

SPEAKER_00

I had a would you rather, remember?

SPEAKER_01

What was it?

SPEAKER_00

I said, would you rather have your spouse cheat on you and no one knows?

unknown

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Or would you rather everybody in the entire world, like with their entire beings, think that your spouse cheated on you, but he actually didn't. But everybody around you is like, he's a cheater, he cheated on you.

SPEAKER_01

But you know for a fact.

SPEAKER_00

But you yourself and your husband know that he did not cheat, but everybody else is like, that guy's a cheater. So like your reputation is like that guy's a cheater. He's a slime ball, he's a cheater.

SPEAKER_01

For me, it's not even a question. Like, I'd much rather not know that my wife did not cheat than her. She did cheat and no one know. Like, that is Yeah. Anyway, my would you rathers. Would you rather know exactly okay? This is kind of lame. Know exactly when you'll die or know how you'll die.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, neither. I don't want to know. I I wanna be blissfully naive.

SPEAKER_01

Bliss okay, no, no, you gotta pick one. Would you rather know how or when?

SPEAKER_00

I I can't know either because I would just like hyperfixate on it.

SPEAKER_01

I think I don't know exactly when. For sure. Because if it's if it's how, then I'm always gonna be searching.

SPEAKER_00

But then it's like there's like this looming like countdown, like okay, but then you can go four days.

SPEAKER_01

But then you can go and like live just such a fun life, just knowing like I got until this day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. I guess I would rather know when than how. Because if it's like, oh, you're gonna die in a car accident, then I would never get in a car again.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And that would suck because you don't know when that car accidents can actually happen.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, next one. You're not married, but let's pretend you are. Would you rather have to live with your in-laws for a year or live in an RV with just your immediate family for a year?

SPEAKER_00

Well, how how big is the house? Like, do I like is it like Michael and Shannon's where like you'd have the basement all to yourself? Uh, yeah, I'd live with in-laws.

SPEAKER_01

Rather than an RV.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, but that's easy for me to say because like I don't actually have in-laws. What would you rather do?

SPEAKER_01

An RV can be tough. RV's small for a full year.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

With two little boys running crazy around there. But I I don't know. It's not like I don't love my in-laws. I just like to have my own space. You know?

SPEAKER_00

What are you talking about? We give you your own space. Just kidding. We don't even know what that word is. Like boundaries in space and leaving people alone. We don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I think I would do the own RB.

SPEAKER_00

Rude.

SPEAKER_01

It's not meant to be rude. It's just it's the way I am. Yeah. Um, alright. Do we like these would you rathers? We should skip the rest.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I just feel like your would you rathers like aren't like fun.

SPEAKER_01

Like, give me okay, give me some of yours then. Give me some of your questions that you had.

SPEAKER_00

I will.

SPEAKER_01

Because yours are more like uh mean. Not mean, but like you have to be a little mean.

SPEAKER_00

It's just like hold on.

SPEAKER_01

Who are you texting? Chat?

SPEAKER_00

Chat.

SPEAKER_01

I was trying to teach Shannon how to use chat while she was here.

SPEAKER_00

That's trying to teach Shannon and Michael anything to do with technology is just like Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

What do we got?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, what's the most insane thing you've done because you liked somebody?

SPEAKER_01

Um that is a weird question to ask. Uh I don't know. That's a tough one. I haven't like thought about that stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I mean? Like, that's that's like thinking back to like dating times. What's the weird what's the craziest thing you've done? This may be a better question for you.

SPEAKER_00

The craziest thing I have done, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Took someone to Italy on like the third second week of dating them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was so fucking stupid. Ugh. Anyway, we're not getting into that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um, the craziest thing I have done. Okay, so this is like just like one little thing about me. And if you're like a single boy who is like interested in me, maybe don't listen to this part. Um I get tunnel vision when I like a boy. And I don't, I'm not the kind of girl that can like play the field and like go out with multiple people. If I really, really like somebody, I'm just like kind of like honed in tunnel vision on that person. And then I like low-key become like a little bit obsessed. Um, this was more like when I was like 18, 19, 2021, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26. No, I'm just kidding. No, I'm just kidding. I don't do this anymore. I've like totally matured and grown up. Um, but when I had Snapchat when I was like 20, I would track their snap score. Cause every time you send and receive a snap, it goes up. And like if they weren't snapping me back, but their snap score was going up, I was trying to figure out who they were snapping. Or one time me and my friends, um we were like the biggest stalkers. I always knew where they were, and like I would either like go like sit outside their house or like find what restaurant they're at, and I would like go see them at the restaurant.

SPEAKER_01

Like what? This is insane. Maybe we should cut this out because you I mean, do a lot of girls do this? Like, yes, that's insane. I would have never even thought about doing that.

SPEAKER_00

And that's the difference between guys and girls. It's like we are like, they're not texting us back. I wonder what they're doing. So we're gonna get to the bottom of what they're doing. And then it's like, oh, they're just at dinner with their guy friends, like, no big deal. Or one time I found out he was on a date with a girl that I knew, and all of my friends knew and didn't tell me.

SPEAKER_03

Oof. Oof.

SPEAKER_00

So it's like you can get some good info.

SPEAKER_01

But like, sometimes you don't want to get the info, you know?

SPEAKER_00

No, sometimes you do because you're it's like you're like, I'm not gonna keep wasting my time with this person if they're on a date with somebody else.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's fair. But okay, so you were tracking snap scores, showing up at random places to make sure they just see you.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It was always incognito. I'm like a spy. Or it's like you you memorize like the last three letters or number of their license plate. So if you see a car that looks like theirs, you either know it's theirs or you're like, oh, that's just a look-alike. But it kind of like gives you like a pit in your stomach if you see their car and you're like, is that them?

SPEAKER_01

Like, should we keep going? Does this list keep going of like crazy stalker things that girls do? That's insane. Like, wow, okay. I was just hoping a girl would text me back. Like, that was all I was ever hoping. And you're over here, little dino, just analyzing Snapchat scores, knowing where people are, knowing people's license plate numbers, tracking them on SnapMap.

SPEAKER_00

Like 90% of the time, if girls and the majority of them are single, or no, they don't even have to be single. Like dating somebody in a situation ship, whatever, if they're having a girls' night, 90% of the time they're doing something stalkerish. That's just the way girls roll.

SPEAKER_01

Well, maybe if you had taken that amount of brain power and put it into school, you could have been getting like straight A's in college.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I didn't want to go to college, so I mean you could have been an investigator, but like I don't do that now. Okay, because I don't, I don't, no, I really don't. I don't have Snapchat anymore. And it's just or boyfriend. It's too much time and energy. It's like I don't even care. Like, if they don't text me back, then they're loss by I'm not like sitting here being like, Why aren't they texting me back? Like, yes. I'm like, uh, okay, moving on to the next.

SPEAKER_01

I like that a lot better. That is that's a lot better. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

That was that time was like really fun. Like, me and my friends had a blast stalking people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's kind of wild. I didn't know it was that like deep with girls and stalking.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we would go on stakeouts and we would like stop at the gas station and like get some snacks and just like go on stakeouts. We would like make the rounds, we'd like go visit that person, then we'd be like, Okay, who are you into? Let's go find where they're at, and then yeah, we'd we'd make the rounds.

SPEAKER_01

All right. I think you guys might get arrested from this podcast.

SPEAKER_00

No, statute of limitations. This is like 10 years ago.

SPEAKER_01

This is pure evidence right here. Whatever. All right, next question. You got another one?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. Let me look at my list. Um what do you think your most toxic trait was in dating Megan?

SPEAKER_01

My most toxic trait in dating Megan?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Um I think I was a little what's the right word? Not like maybe a little obsessive, a little not like maybe.

SPEAKER_00

Were you a stalker?

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no. It was more like um constantly worried that like she wasn't actually like serious about it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Because like oh, because you guys got married in two days, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, and also because we both had just coming off breaking up from uh being engaged.

SPEAKER_00

Engagements, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And so I was like always worrying, like, oh, when is this going to be just the same result? Because we both just broke off engagements, and so it's like we don't maybe view the engagements as serious as what we thought. I mean, maybe as like what I was hoping.

SPEAKER_00

So I was always just like maybe always like kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, exactly. And so I think I probably asked her. I don't think I was like too annoying about asking about it, but I was always like, Oh, are you sure?

SPEAKER_00

Like, you know, like were you like a needy, like reassurance? Like, do you like me? Do you promise that you like me?

SPEAKER_01

I don't think I was that bad. No. I mean, I needed a little reassurance because we were getting married.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's too good. One time a guy asked me for reassurance and I got the ick, and I was like, I actually don't like you.

SPEAKER_01

You what doesn't give you the ick? Like, truly.

SPEAKER_00

No, I remember coming home and Shannon was in the kitchen, like waiting for me. And she was like, How did it go? And I was like, it was like so weird. Like he was like so like needy and like wanted to know if I liked him and like wanted to talk about his feelings, and like, and I was just like, ew. And Shannon was like, Well, were you mean? And I was like, No, I wasn't mean, but like he just like kept like going on about his feelings, and then he'd be like, Okay, how do you feel? And I was always like, I don't know, good.

SPEAKER_01

You can speak to a brick wall, but you can also go be a brick wall.

SPEAKER_00

Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And okay, no, it wasn't like I was like, Oh, like, do you like me back? None of that. It was always just like, like, are you sure? Like, are you good? Like, we're we're going too fast, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

No, I get that. I get that type of reassurance.

SPEAKER_01

I'm never like, oh, do you like me back?

SPEAKER_00

Like, I wasn't, I was never like Pinky promise that you like me.

SPEAKER_01

Do you actually like me or like do you like me a lot? Like, out of ten, how much?

SPEAKER_00

On a scale of one to ten. You know who my sisters love to ask that question. They call it the like love scale. Love is ten.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Really like is like above a five. You like somebody, like you want to date them five.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So they're when I like go on a date with somebody, they're like, hey, where are you at on the scale?

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. And all right. I actually never heard that before.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's a Emily and Rachel asked me that. I don't know if Megan's ever asked me that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Mostly, mostly Rachel. Rachel's always like, Where are you at on the scale? Yeah. Okay, next one. Okay. Um, have you ever looked through someone's phone?

SPEAKER_01

Like besides Megan's?

SPEAKER_00

Like when you and Megan were dating, were you ever like, I'm gonna snoop through her phone? Or like your ex, were you ever like I'm gonna look through her phone? I'm worried she's like being sketch.

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't think I've ever snooped someone through someone's phone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I've never snooped, I've never snooped through like um like a partner or like a situation ship's phone. Um what?

SPEAKER_01

Nothing, keep going.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I didn't want to say like boyfriend.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00

But I've never snooped through a boyfriend's phone situationship, anyone that I'm talking to. But one time, kind of going back to my like spy stalker-ish ways, um, this guy that I had been in like a six-month situationship with, we drove to Park City with like a group of our friends. It was kind of like a big like group date. And he was driving. I was in the back of the car, like I was directly behind him, and it was night when we were driving home, and he was on his phone at like a stoplight, and I could see it through the reflection of the glass, and that's how I figured out he was texting his ex.

SPEAKER_01

You're a freak.

SPEAKER_00

They were sending, they were sending each other like really like emotional songs, and I would I like looked up one of the songs and I was like, ew, like it gave me the ick. I was like, this is what like he's texting her, like I'm sick, like it's so sickening and embarrassing, like honestly. Like, honestly, and he he was like 27 years old at the time.

SPEAKER_01

I truly wonder who you're gonna end up with. You need someone that's just never gonna talk about the feelings.

SPEAKER_00

No, I can talk about my feelings, I just have a hard time.

SPEAKER_01

But he can't do it too early, else you will get it. It's so fast.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and the other thing is a part of it is like I don't know how I feel. So like don't ask me that. Because like I'm still trying to figure it out, so like don't ask me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so maybe that's your problem, is you need to like be okay with figuring it out.

SPEAKER_00

I'm trying to figure it out.

SPEAKER_01

So why can't he ask?

SPEAKER_00

And you guys can Well, because then he doesn't like my answer. Where I'm like, I don't, I don't know, like I'm still like trying to figure it out. And then they're like, well, why don't you love me? And I'm like, because it's been like only like a little bit of time, sweetie.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay. Anyway, you know what that just reminded me though of going like your friend's phone. I've never I don't think I've I don't think I've stooped through someone's phone, but it reminded me of a prank that I pulled, and I always I still feel bad for this for one of my friends. We were in uh high school, and this was with one of my best friends, okay? So it was a dude, I wasn't a girl. I got um a fake phone number. I don't know if you ever did this back in high school. This was when like you could get a fake phone number and start to prank people. And so I got a fake number from my phone, and we were on a basketball trip. I can't, I think we were in like Denver, Colorado or whatever. And um, so the whole team knows about it except him. And so I text him and I'm pretending to be this girl at school. She's like gosh, you were catfishing him, the hottest girl at school, and I start pretending like like sorry, talking to him, and I keep it going for like a week. Oh day, just like texting him all day, and I'd be like sitting next to him and uh like at dinner, and then I'd just like lean over and like text him, and then he'd get it, and he'd like show me the text, be like, dude, like look what she said, and I'd be like, What were you saying?

SPEAKER_00

Were you like I was playing hot?

SPEAKER_01

I I mean a little bit, but I wasn't like being too obvious, you know. And then I told him, and I it like truly, like I could tell he was about to cry.

SPEAKER_00

Was he like well, first of all, yeah, that's like devastating.

SPEAKER_01

I was pretty mean. That was a pretty mean thing to do.

SPEAKER_00

Were you like, sorry, dude? I thought it would be funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But like the whole team knew, so everyone was laughing and like laughing at him.

SPEAKER_00

Side.

SPEAKER_01

It was a mean one. Honestly, it made me feel pretty bad. I don't think our relationship is ever the same either. But anyway, sorry, that was a random story.

SPEAKER_00

Um that's funny though.

SPEAKER_01

It was pretty mean. I feel like that's something you would do.

SPEAKER_00

No, see, me and my friends were just like truly like 12-year-olds, and we would get the fake numbers and just like prank call people.

SPEAKER_03

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_00

And be like.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I think we can move on from these ones. The hypotheticals.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, move on.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, unless you want to keep going. Sorry, I I kind of was like just moved on.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, yeah, that transition sucked, but yeah, let's move on.

SPEAKER_01

That transition did suck. Um, I think we're getting a little slow here. So, someone though did write in for the judge and jury segment.

SPEAKER_00

Ooh, love.

SPEAKER_01

And actually we have two. And this one I haven't even read yet. We just barely got it. So this says, I'm 22 dating a guy who's 23. Both LDS, he's from a wealthy, affluent family, and my family is not. We really like each other, but will this cause issues ahead? For instance, going out for nice dinners, our weekly current occurrence at his home. For us, it's a treat for a birthday, etc. I'm not embarrassed by it, but do you think his family will be okay with that? This is a good question.

SPEAKER_00

I don't understand. Like, is his family gonna be okay with the fact that her family doesn't go to dinner once a week?

SPEAKER_01

No, it's basically she's asking how she's dating a rich guy in a rich family and her family's not. And like, is his family going to be okay? Or like his family. Is the rich family gonna be okay with the family that's not? Like, that's basically what the question is. And like their lifestyle versus her family's lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, unless they're like truly like complete elitist assholes, they're gonna be okay with it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I I feel like I don't know though. So this is my thing. I could see issues where if the family has like they're super elitist, are they doing a lot of fun things? And then the other family doesn't, well, like fun things in their eyes. Are they gonna like try and keep like pulling the daughter away to go like do all these fun things because they think the rich family or they think they're having more fun than her family, so they're like, oh, we need to take her to go do these fun things because her family can't afford to do them. You know what I mean? And so it's like I think the like if I was in the other family's shoes, I'd be like, oh, like they're just gonna try and take my daughter to go do these things that I can't afford to do, and so they're gonna try and pull her away from us, type of thing. That's what I think she's kind of asking.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and see, I just like I don't maybe I just like truly am naive. I just don't see that. I can see like, oh, we go on this vacation every year, or this is a tradition. Like, I I don't have an issue with that, or I don't see how her family would have an issue with that unless it's like constant, nonstop, like they're always with them and never with her family. But as a girl, I just I kind of feel like you just naturally go a little bit more with the girls' family. Would you agree with that?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean it's not always the case, but kind of. I think that's I think you say that though, because you come from a house of all girls.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. So I feel like too, the girl will be like maybe aware, and it already kind of sounds like she is already aware of it or is kind of like not projecting, but maybe like a preconceived notion. So maybe she can just like be aware of it and be like, okay, well, if we're gonna go do this with your family, then like we need to go spend time with my family. And it doesn't need to be like this big extravagant thing. You could just go hang out and just spend time together.

SPEAKER_01

I think so. From my perspective, and I will give this so this is from like actually where I I've felt like this too before, exactly like her. Because I would say your family's lifestyle is much different than my family. It's not like my family's not like my dad's been successful, done good things, but definitely live very different of like what you all like to do and what I did growing up. And I think at the beginning I was a little worried about that too, especially when we started having kids. It was like, oh, like the gift giving or the things that we're gonna go do like on trips and stuff, is not gonna be the same on both sides as far as like experience or the things that are being given. Um, but what I've kind of learned and seen is just like it's it's not about like the the things, it's just like the love that you feel from both sides, and it's just people express love in different ways. And so if that's like the way that his family expresses love is for each other, is by going on the family dinners and doing that with each other, like that's fine, and that's great for them, and go be happy doing that, but also on your side, you don't need to compare, like it's just different, like don't compare the way you're doing things because your families are different, and your your families are never gonna be the same. And so, like, like my family, like there's certain things that were different with your family, with Megan's family, and like that's fine, like it doesn't matter, and it's just it gets it gets bad or it gets weird is when you start just like trying to compare the two families and trying to make them be like the same when they're they're not, and so I think in her situation, it's just it no one's gonna care and don't and don't make a big deal about things, I think. I think it gets if you like come back to your family like, oh, we went to these super nice restaurants and like did all these crazy things, they're gonna be like, Oh, like, are you so you're saying you're having more fun with them, or you like don't like doing what we're doing as much anymore? So I just I don't know. That's kind of how I would go about it. But what do you think?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, don't compare families. Every family is different, like the things that like you would consider like our traditions now, we were not doing when I was even like eight years ago, like we didn't start going to Hawaii every year until like three years ago. And we kind of like hijacked Emily and Rachel's tradition. They used to go every year with their group of friends, and then me and my mom and dad got FOMO, and we were like, let's go as a family. So, and that didn't start happening until like three years ago. So every family's different, everybody's traditions or what they like to do are different and they can change over time. And what? I don't know, I feel like my camera's being weird. Do you see how it like went really dark for a second?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's a little darker.

SPEAKER_00

It keeps like flashing.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway. Um and yeah, don't like be like, don't become like Braddy and Snooty and being like, oh, we can't go to your house because we're gonna go to Roose Chris instead.

SPEAKER_01

It's like Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Just like be normal.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Be normal, don't make it weird. That's like all I have to say. Like it's really not that deep. Be normal.

SPEAKER_01

When you start acting snooty or acting like I don't know, yeah, like if you go to your family's and you're like, oh, we're so much better than you.

SPEAKER_00

It's like, yeah, they're not gonna like the your in-laws. So don't do that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like it's about how you spend time with the family. And so if you're doing the same things always done with your parents, like who cares what you're eating or whatever it is, just like have fun and be and be good with it. Um I agree. So yeah, I don't think it's that deep. I think she's making a little too big a deal with that one. That's my verdict.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_01

All right, last one. Your sister, wait, wait, what is this? One second. So this one they wrote it. Oh, this is why they wrote it kind of weird. They wrote it as like uh putting us in in the shoes here. So like they're saying your sister-in-law is RSVP. So anyway, they said your sister is RS sister-in-law RSVPs, yes to your destination wedding eight months out. Then three weeks before the wedding, can uh the wedding cancels because her dog is sick. Wait, hold on. I need to reread this. Your sister-in-law's RS what the heck? Your sister-in-law RSVPs, yes to your destination wedding eight months out, then three weeks before the wedding cancels because her dog is sick. You've already paid for her flight, hotel, and welcome dinner, which is about $2,400, and she refuses to reimburse you, saying you would have spent it anyway. Who is right? This is stupid to me.

SPEAKER_00

Is that even a question?

SPEAKER_01

Well, okay, actually, what would you say?

SPEAKER_00

The bride is right.

SPEAKER_01

So they need she paid the $2,400.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she canceled three weeks out.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it's it's a dog. Like, take it to the vet. A lot of vets have a boarding facility. You can board the dog for a week and it'll be at the vet, so it's getting great care if it's that sick. Um that's true. Like, I just unless it's like a child. Like, sorry, I know people are like, my dog is my baby. No. Don't compare, don't compare a dog to a human child, first of all.

SPEAKER_01

And second-to-key. You're gonna get like people are not gonna like that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm sorry. It's like one is an animal and one is a human child. Let's keep it in perspective.

SPEAKER_02

Fair.

SPEAKER_00

Um, you can drop it off at the vet, you can leave it with a trusted family friend. Like, you have a lot of options.

SPEAKER_01

I would agree.

SPEAKER_00

I think she just like maybe A doesn't want to go. Or B, I don't know what B would be, but I think this chick either has like gotta pay the 2400. I think that's messed up, especially it would be one thing if it was like three months out, then I'd be like, okay.

SPEAKER_01

You could bring someone else to take her spot or something like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but three weeks, that's that's a little late.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But if it's a destination wedding, do you think you could bring someone else to take her spot and just like switch things around?

SPEAKER_00

And she said it's her sister-in-law. So, like, is she not in the wedding? Is she like she's not gonna be in the pictures? And is the husband gonna go?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there's feels like a little something more behind this of why she's not going.

SPEAKER_00

Either she just like doesn't like this girl and she doesn't want to be a part of the wedding, and she's using her sick dog as an excuse, or I don't know, because it sounds like she doesn't even have to pay what she maybe has to pay for a flight and a hotel, but didn't you say she paid $2,400? That's a lot of money.

SPEAKER_01

She paid flight, hotel, and the dinner.

SPEAKER_00

So she paid for she doesn't even have to pay for anything. What the heck is she this girl complaining about? She's pretty much getting a free vacation.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. But if I was the lady, the person in the wedding, like this is my wedding, I'd be like, all right, fine, and I'd probably try and substitute her out. Like that's why.

SPEAKER_00

Then that's your sister-in-law.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'd be eating like if it was you, I'd happily substitute you out quickly. Super fast. We got you covered.

SPEAKER_00

If it was just like a friend, just like a random guest, maybe not in the wedding party, whatever, it'd be like, okay, is that annoying? Yeah, but like, whatever. But it's your sister-in-law. Like, wouldn't you want all your sister-in-laws there?

SPEAKER_01

No, absolutely not. That is an easy question.

SPEAKER_00

Whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Um anyway, but yeah, I agree. It's a lot of money. And just to like cancel three weeks ahead, and it's also rude. Like, how long is the dog gonna be sick for? This is three weeks ago.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like surely it will be better by the time you gotta go. That's what I'm saying. She's just using it as an excuse. There's something deeper. I usually say it's not that deep. This is deeper.

SPEAKER_01

Also, no, we didn't talk about speaking of the phrase it's not that deep. I got you the best gift ever while you were here.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you did. I forgot about that. That was really nice, and I actually love it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, I thought about that. Or did that all on my own, all set up by myself, not even help from Megan. She didn't even know.

SPEAKER_00

So look at you.

SPEAKER_01

I am a very thoughtful person in case you didn't know.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I didn't know that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I am. I am. But yeah, that person, I think the sister-in-law has got to be on the hook for the $2,400. That's the final verdict.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry. Um, well, anything else you got to share for this episode? You're just dying or chomping at the bit as you say, ready to get out of here?

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

To go see Ace. Ass? I mean Ace.

SPEAKER_00

Kate, you're so annoying. I just don't know what his name is. Because even when you said ace, I'm like, is that his name? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, go um go write him again and see.

SPEAKER_00

We're gonna go figure it out today.

SPEAKER_01

Go talk to him.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna ask him what he wants.

SPEAKER_01

Start shouting out random names and see which one kind of perks up his ears.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That'll be good. That'll be funny. Honestly, I think the chips are you're gonna do, you're you're gonna be in the stall. Just start reading through names and then you're gonna see which one he turns to.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_01

But all right. Well, that's the end. Do you want to sign us off?

SPEAKER_00

Sure. And that is our episode of Legally Friends. Thank you so much for listening. Be sure to leave us a review. Listen to us anywhere you get your uh mother. Listen to us anywhere you get your podcast, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and we'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_01

That voice is so funny.

SPEAKER_00

That is my newscaster voice. No, newscaster voice is actually like they're supposed to like talk deep. Breaking news Amy Scala bought a horse. What will she name it next?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, that's it. Bye.

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