SPEAKER_03 0:00

Welcome back to Legally Friends. This is episode what 15?

SPEAKER_00 0:04

I think so, yeah. 15.

SPEAKER_03 0:05

We have an exciting guest with us, Scarlett Bentley from Temptation Island season two. We always start with what we'd call like our opening statements, just talk about anything that happened from the week, any drama, because Amy is my sister-in-law. Usually we talk about all the drama that happens within the family.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

Wait, cute. That's why it's called legally friends.

SPEAKER_03 0:26

Exactly. Exactly. My in-laws, I would say, are kind of crazy. But you know, so that's that's why we talk about it. And we uh we have our fights, like my sister-in-law, Emily, she's helping with our home renovations, and she does she does the design work and she's been running up the budget on the renovation. And so we had some you know debates about that on here. Amy, did you have anything this week?

SPEAKER_00 0:50

This week was exhausting. I was playing Mediator. The whole family got into like a fight because of the dance weekend. It just like truly, I hate those dance conventions. They genuinely bring out the worst in people, including our family.

SPEAKER_03 1:04

For context, we have some nieces that are in the dance world. They're what are the ages, Amy?

SPEAKER_00 1:11

Um, 14, 10, and eight. And so last weekend they had a dance convention. It's three days long. They do their solos and then they go into rooms with like 300 kids and they only give out like four scholarships. Oh, wow. And so, you know, it like I mean, I don't have any kids, but like they are like my children. My nieces and nephews are like my children. And so, like, I get when they don't get the scholarship, it like breaks your heart. But then it's like because my sisters are so stressed out that they want their girls to do good, then they start lashing out at like me and Megan. Like Emily was like, I'm not helping you with your house anymore. Good luck with the design.

SPEAKER_03 1:55

Yeah, like these are big fights. These are not small, small fights.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

And then somehow I become the mediator between everybody. So that was my week.

SPEAKER_03 2:05

My week was pretty chill. I went fishing yesterday with the boys. I have two little boys for catch any fish, four and two, and yes, we did, but I was very offended though, because after I told Amy about it, and she said, Hmm, I didn't really take you as much of a fisherman.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

So I was a little Well you're not like a country boy. You're like a country club snob. You go to the country club and golf. Different kind of country boy.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

I do both. Okay, really? Scarlett already hopping in and just with the jabs. That's funny. Um and all right, that's it for me. Scarlett, did you have anything happen this week? I I feel like it's been a very exciting time for you.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

This week has been crazy because so last week all of the couples went to LA, and that was like the first time all of the couples had been together, but then this weekend all of the singles and all of the couples met for the first time, and so it was just like so wild to see like both villas collide. But I mean, I will say everyone like behaved.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

There were no fights like out at the bars.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

I think everyone really got along, and yeah, so it was surprising.

SPEAKER_03 3:19

The reunion comes out tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

They're doing it in two parts, so I think two couples will go on Wednesday and two will go on Friday. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:29

Well, with that being said, let's just jump into it. Before we get the whole Temptation Island stuff, we want to just get to know more about you. We you mentioned you're from Arkansas, right? And then you moved to San Diego.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

So ever since I was a little girl, I had always said, I want to live in California. I'm moving to California before I had ever even been to California. Like I was just drawn to it. And then I went to school at the University of Arkansas, and as soon as I graduated, I just packed my Jeep to the brim and started driving. I didn't know a single person, and I was just like, I'm doing it. And I landed in the city.

SPEAKER_03 4:03

Like, no job, no nothing.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

No nothing. Posted on like the Pacific Beach page, like looking for a roommate, met this girl that ended up becoming one of my best friends within just like, I mean, no time. We had signed a lease, and I've been here for this summer will be eight years.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

So and then you started what's called SoCal Social?

SPEAKER_01 4:22

Yeah. So after I had been here for several years, you know, I had really just like dove in headfirst and started meeting all these people and like working with their brands. Is SoCal Social uh like market?

SPEAKER_00 4:35

Like, do you do marketing? We do social media stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

Social media, content creation, um meta ads, influencer collabs, all of the online presence. So are you like a manager for like clients? So I have a team that I've built here in San Diego. So we bring on brands and then we just take over like their online presence. And so then we manage their socials, we make their content, you know, we create ads for them, really whatever they need just to get their brand out there.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

So and then also you went on below deck. I did. Below duck selling the yacht, and that was what season three.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

It feels like a lifetime ago, but that experience was still really hard just because, you know, that's still cameras in your face nonstop. It's still a lot of drama, and it was me kind of being the new girl on the yacht, and so that was hard. But overall, that was a way more, I think, like lighthearted fun experience than Temptation Island. Just because Temptation Island like hits so close to home, like it really is your relationship, you know, being put out to the world.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

So was below deck like your first like reality, like was that your first time ever being on a reality show? Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_03 5:48

Did you ever think you'd do it again? Be on another reality TV show?

SPEAKER_01 5:52

I was open to it, and then you know, this one I got reached out to on Instagram and I kind of brushed it because I was like, absolutely not, I'm not gonna go on Temptation Island. And then, like, as some time passed, put some more thought into it, and then I brought it up to my boyfriend Cole, and I said, you know, I I really don't think we should do this. Like this could be bad. And he said, Let's just try. And I was like, Okay, let's do it.

SPEAKER_03 6:17

So, Cole, when did you guys first meet? You know, what was the was the story behind that?

SPEAKER_01 6:22

We first met almost two years prior to going on the show, and it was just through business. We worked together. We both were in relationships when we first met, and then we both went through breakups at the same time. And one day, Cole was like dropping some product off at my house, and I remember just being like, hmm, I had never like even it had never crossed my mind. And then we ended up hanging out like outside of work, and then we hung out every single day. After that, immediately like booked a trip to Mexico together, and it was just like off to the races. I think we did that too soon after our relationships, which is why we ended up taking a break. Then we got back together, had been together for a while, and then went on the show, and now we've had, you know, everything since.

SPEAKER_03 7:09

Yeah. So you got this message on Instagram, and you kept it quiet for a second.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

So at first, I I think I might have replied to the guy and said, like, yeah, you know, send more details. And then when he replied back, I was just like, no, not even that's don't need to go down that road.

unknown 7:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

And then I thought about it a little bit more, and I was like, I'm just gonna see like what Cole thinks. And so I told him, and I was like, you know, there's this uh show where we can like test our relationship. And trust was a huge thing in our relationship anyway. And so I was like, you know, maybe it would be an opportunity for growth. And then I thought more about it, and I was like, no, this is a horrible idea. Like it's ship patient island, it's so bad. Yeah, and um, and then he said, Let's just try. And so this is still early stages, though. You know, you have to go through so many interviews, and I was like, All right, let's do it. And then we just kept making it through more and more rounds, and the next thing I knew, it was like, okay, we're flying you to Hawaii.

SPEAKER_03 8:09

How was the relationship before you went on the show?

SPEAKER_01 8:14

We were going through a lot right before the show. It was honestly the worst time for us to go on. Yeah, like really. We had no foundation, really, is what it was. And so then, you know, we're just separated and we can't speak, and all of these, it's just yeah, we there had been, I mean, we were really not even sure if the relationship was gonna carry on, you know, even just weeks before, and we were just fighting for the relationship so hard, and then you just get separated, and it's like we weren't even good, and now there's all of these other factors.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

No, that's tough. I mean, I feel like having that trip to Mexico, kind of based on what you're saying, is like you guys started on like the ultimate high, yeah, and then it was kind of like that honeymoon phase, everything was perfect, and then you came back. I'm sure you jumped into things pretty quickly.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

I'm guessing from the very beginning, there were things coming up in the relationship that I maybe should have taken a second look at.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

What type of things were they?

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Just dishonesty, you know.

SPEAKER_03 9:15

Just the little small lies. Yeah, if you want to call them small, but one thing I did respect about you specifically on the show, just kind of talking about the lies. I felt like you still kept things about your relationship personal where you weren't like both of you weren't out to destroy each other. Like you still wanted each other to have some sort of like dignity and keep some things private. I did notice that was something that was different about you guys.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

There was so much that, you know, because as much as like, yes, we are down to you know, go test our relationship, but there are some things that it's just like we don't have to go there. I will say I did share on the show what some of those lies were, but they didn't put it in there. So really, you know, that yeah, you know, I have received like a lot of both sides, and I think it's because it looks like, oh, there weren't really any lies or there weren't this, they just they weren't shown. You know, like there was a day where I really did like give a timeline of our relationship and you know, the things that had really hurt me, and you know, how we were both just like you know, we can both grow in, you know, so many different ways. And uh I just don't think that that was portrayed.

SPEAKER_03 10:31

Would you want to share any of those right now? I mean, it's okay if you don't want to.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

It was just, you know, I think from the get-go of our relationship, it was, you know, lying about who he had been with when, you know, he had just been hanging out with me, or things like that. And it's like those are huge moments into building a relationship. And then that when we took our break, it was the same thing. And so it just like really hurt me, and like I just felt like I didn't feel safe, you know? And so that's really tough.

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Maybe nothing happened when you was with someone else that you didn't know about, but it's still the idea of like, why didn't you tell me?

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Oh no, it it did.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

It did happen.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:22

Okay. So even uh so you knew about that.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Well, I just like would have feelings in my gut, and I was just like, What happened? And then he would say, Nothing, nothing, nothing. And then on the tenth time that I asked, he would tell the truth.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

So there was full cheating happening.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

No, no, no. This is when we were on the break trying to work things out.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

Oh, okay, okay. I got you. That that makes sense. So on the break, then he yeah, then eventually he came and told it to you what happened.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Yeah. Which, you know, it's fine. If we are not together, like do your thing, but don't don't lie to me about it. Because here we are trying to rebuild this foundation of trust. And why would I want to be back with you? Which is what we're working towards if I'm still getting lied to, you know. So it was just like it was hard. And I, you know, I I see on his end, he says, Well, I just didn't feel the need to tell you because we weren't together. And it's like, regardless if we're together or not, like you can't just lie to someone.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

When you guys were on your break, were you talking to anybody or dating anybody, or were you just like taking time to like kind of figure things out and like what you wanted?

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Both at the beginning, we like weren't speaking on the break, like it was a break up. Um, and so you know, yeah, I had dated other people and then we started hanging out again and like actual, like we were going to the gym together and having dinner together and staying the night together. And it was like we were clearly like, you know, working towards being together again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:55

How long was the break?

SPEAKER_01 12:57

I think it was like four or five months.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

So you guys go into Temptation Island, things are a little bit rocky going into it. Let's let's actually get to the island because I think Amy, I actually do want to hear, but before we get into your stuff, can we tell you our thoughts on the season? Just like what we thought of different people. And yeah, so I'll start with Amy. Amy's very funny. So, Amy, please give me your honest opinions on what you thought of season two.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

Okay, so this your season was the first season that I had ever seen Temptation Island.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

And so I when I was watching it, I was like, hey, I love all the girls, like I love all the girls in the couples. Um, I don't know what kind of beef I have with Mikey, but there is like some deep-rooted beef that I have with him. Anytime he was on my screen, like rage filled my body.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

Like I was like, I think a lot of people did.

SPEAKER_00 13:57

Like get get him off my screen. I wanted to vote him off. Like, you know how in Love Island you can vote somebody off? Like I was like, like, get him off my screen. So then it got to the point where anytime he came on, I was fast-forwarding it. Cause I like, if I had to see that man cry on my screen one more time, it just and maybe he was just so up and down. Yeah, it's like one minute he was like stone cold and he was like, I don't care. Like, she can go do whatever the heck she wants. And then all of a sudden his like lip starts quivering and he like got like the crocodile tears. And I was like, it just felt very performative to me. And I really like Sydney. I just felt like these guys would like be kind of crazy in their villa. Like when Mikey was like, I could fall for some of these girls on like night two.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Literally.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

And then Sydney saw it, so she's like, Okay, well, I'm gonna go do my own thing. And then he's like, How could she do this to me? I'm like, wait, what? Like, it just felt like such it felt like such a double standard where like kind of like out of sight, out of mind for the guys, like, oh, I can go do whatever I want because I'm over here. But then they would like, I felt like the guys would get mad at the girls being like, Well, how dare she be like confiding in these other guys? But it's like, well, what are like what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 15:18

I feel like it was just a very quick backfire for Mikey because he went in like acting like this, and then I mean, there are you know consequences to your actions, and then he's like, wait, wait, like exactly.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Yeah, it would it was crazy. I was like not really expecting because Love Island, I feel like you kind of have to give it like 10 episodes because there's like 60 episodes until you're like like it kind of sucks you in. But like all of a sudden, like episode two, I was like, Oh, whoa, like there is a lot happening here.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

So much. I mean, I think too, it's just like the the concept of the show is pretty wild.

SPEAKER_03 15:56

This is my thing. These guys, I don't know them, they all seem great. You they go on this show, and the whole point of all the girls around them in their villa is to get them to like them so they can have, you know, to tempt them, but then also they want more screen time, they want to be on the show more too. And in order to do that, they have to get the guy to like them and to like be around them. And so these girls are just throwing themselves at these guys, and they're not realizing it's not because they actually like you, it's because they want to be part of the show too, and so they're like their egos and their heads get blown up so high.

SPEAKER_00 16:35

You just mentioned that like the singles, everybody was together for like the first time. How did that go? Like the like the girlfriend girls, like the one villa girls meeting all the singles, the single girls. How did that go?

SPEAKER_01 16:50

There were a couple of the single girls that didn't show, which I think made all the difference in the world. I don't know how it would have gone over if they were there. Um, but I mean, even some that like you would think would be like questionable. It it was fine. We all hung out. We all, I mean, we I think at the end of the day, we all realize that it is just a show, you know. And although like you can get really hurt, it's like, okay, you guys, we have to be strong enough and smart enough to like take a step back, realize that we all signed up for this, we knew what we were getting ourselves into, and it's over. And like here we are, you know.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

So I have a very uh tough question for you. Did you go into Temptation Island genuinely wanting to fix things? Or was there a little bit of like in your back of your mind, because it's going through rocky time, like maybe this is an easy breaking point for us?

SPEAKER_01 17:44

No, I was set on leaving that island as a couple. Like we we both were. And because for me, I am like, of course we can go on there and not cheat. So that was what we were talking about prior. You know, we're like, we're gonna make it to the end, no doubt. Like, and then we get on there and it's like, okay, well, no shit, we're not gonna cheat. But there's actually so many other things that were coming up throughout the process that was just like, we are like, we're just not in a good place, you know. And I think that my mental health in the relationship, like it just, I was not in a healthy spot. And so for me, it was like, okay, you can either leave and go back to the same life that you were living where you were like really sad, or like you can take this experience, learn from it, grow from it, and you know, choose to take time alone. Which what's also not in there is at the final bonfire, I don't, I don't break up with him. I say, I respect you and this relationship enough to say that I'm not making any final decisions here. And I said, you know, like for now, I think that we should leave alone. Um, but that's kind of how I just I needed space after the show. I needed time to reflect and like tap back in because it was a whirlwind, you know, like it was just so much. And so I just, yeah, I needed time to breathe.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

You and Cole lived together, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:12

We did. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

So when you left the island alone, and then like you go back to the same house, what was that like?

SPEAKER_01 19:21

It was so hard. I think I, you know, we just felt so disconnected and exhausted, and um, we like had to, you know, obviously take space and he went and you know, stayed elsewhere, and just really needed time to figure out like if we wanted to really dive into this relationship and fix things and try again, or if we just needed to like cut it for good.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

So are you guys together or are you guys broken?

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Or together you're together.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

So you you're still living together? Yes. Okay, okay, yep.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

We are we we took that time apart, and then I think, you know, we both just said, like, if this is gonna work, we have to both put in the work. And so, you know, we both like go to therapy, and we, you know, we've been really been working on like the communication and the transparency, and I think just like realizing how fragile we were, and if like these things aren't fixed, we were gonna lose each other. And so I, you know, I mean, I think sometimes like the hardest of times can be what builds you up. So that's kind of on the path that we're on.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

Well, that's amazing. I love that for you guys because I did like I did like you guys. You guys were definitely my favorite couple.

SPEAKER_01 20:40

Oh, thank you. Yeah, it's been a journey.

SPEAKER_00 20:44

Okay, so you guys get back from Hawaii. When did you guys get back? What's the turnaround? We got back in September. Okay, so it's been a it's been a long time. Like seven months ago.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Wow. Nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

And then how long was like your break from the show of like figuring things out?

SPEAKER_01 21:03

I would say it was about a month until we like locked back in. We were like, let's do this thing.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

So then I have to ask about the other guy on from the island, Bradley. What was I mean, you guys were becoming pretty close, as it seemed like on the show, but obviously you always kept it respectful and like seemed like purely friendship, but he obviously wanted something more. Um, how did that go? And where did things end up uh for you two?

SPEAKER_01 21:30

It shows that he like really wanted something more, but as respectful as I was, he was too. He never tried to push any of my boundaries. He never said anything. We talked about like my relationship and we had really amazing, insightful conversations. He had the best advice. You know, he had been through similar things, and I just feel like he really helped me navigate the whole thing and was truly just such an amazing friend that. You know, he he never did anything to make me feel anything other than that. There's that final night, that final scene where he like comes and he basically says, I love you, you know. And that was like, I mean, you know, I I I felt him. And I just think that maybe because of like a few of the scenes, you would think it was one way when in reality, like he was just such a good friend.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

I will say, like, watching, and maybe Zach had it has a different perspective because he's a guy, and I feel like guys are like, no, like he's in love with you. But I personally felt like when he was talking to you, he was saying, like, I love you as a friend. Like, I never felt like, oh, like he like wants her to like leave the the island with him. I was like, oh no, like he truly is her friend, and like, and this is the other thing I will say. I feel like the guys, for the most part, in your villa, they were more like confidants and like giving the girls advice and being like, you guys deserve more than this. Like, come on.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

The difference in lead villas is insane.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

It's crazy. The girls were going, the girls were going full force. Like, I was like stop it.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

You guys, are you kidding me? That is how guys do it. That is the whole plan. It's to get you to trust them. I mean, so the the girl trusts you as the guy, you become friends, and then you wait for that little crack in the relationship, and then you slide in there because you're already the friend. That's the whole play.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

They're not throwing themselves at us. Yeah, if they're in a way they are.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

If the guy's sitting there just like listening to every little thing, doing the little extra things, making the breakfast, the all that stuff. That is a guy throwing himself to you.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

That's exactly what we needed. So good job, boys.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

It just really goes to show like how different men and women are. I mean, the men in your villa, like good for them, they know because it's like you were genius. Girl, girls need more of like that emotional where like guys, like the girls were like, Oh, like I'll just like twerk in their face and they'll they'll want to take me to the hideaway or whatever the little tent is called. And it worked. It it did. Like, that's exactly what happened.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Yeah, true. I mean, I guess both sides know how to work it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:21

That was I both sides did exactly what I would expect. And uh anyway.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Um I don't know. I I was kind of expecting a little bit more from the guys, like the single guys. I was like, oh wow, they really are being like very respectful, and like I just feel like they were just like a like kind of like a shoulder to lean on a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 24:45

Oh yeah, and that they're gonna catch you when you're fallen, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Just from watching Love Island, I was like, oh wow, like these guys are not going for it at all. Like they're not like being bold and like laying all their cards out.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

I think that they were like reading our energy because we we were not down.

SPEAKER_03 25:02

Meanwhile, the guys were depressed, and so it's like, let's party, let's get our minds off this, and then yeah, they were like, let's take shots and let's go skinny dipping. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so that's it. Let's talk about the different people that were on the show and your relationships with them. So let's start with the girls. I know we had who were you close, who are you closest with?

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Honestly, we are all us four girls are so close. We've just spent the last few weeks together. I mean, Kaylee's inside my house right now, staying with me here in San Diego. So, I mean, we're we're all super close.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

I loved watching like the four girls' friendship because it felt like very genuine.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

It was. We held each other through that entire season. I mean, I don't know what any of us would have done without like the bond that we all formed.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

Yeah, yeah. I did love that. Do you know if like the like single girls from the men's villa are they as close as you guys are to some of them?

SPEAKER_01 26:06

I think that they they kind of like maybe clicked up a little bit, but I mean, uh it seems like a lot of them are hanging out as well. So I think it's probably like we're all like trauma bonded. I don't know. Seriously.

SPEAKER_03 26:18

So tell me about the guys. How did what guys do you do you like and not like?

SPEAKER_01 26:22

I like everyone.

SPEAKER_03 26:23

You like them all?

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Yep. I like them all. So Summits inside my house as well, right now. Cole's in there. I mean, so us four, we've been together, you know, all week. And then last week I was with Jack and Mikey and Sid and Shy and like the whole cast, and you just see a different side of everyone, you know.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

You're telling me there's no bad blood.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

There's none.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

Are Jack and Cheyenne are they friends? Are they back together? Can you tell us anything? They're friends. I'll think I'll just leave them to speak on them.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

For sure. For sure.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

Obviously, it's a TV show and like every like 90% of it gets cut out. But the whole time I was rooting for you four girls, it was mainly Kaylee, Cheyenne, and Sydney that I was like, oh my gosh, like you guys are so amazing. Like, I need you guys to like see what I'm seeing and like stand up for yourself. Like the whole time I was like, come on, like, how are you letting these guys get away with all of this?

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Yeah, I know. There was a lot going on.

SPEAKER_03 27:31

So, speaking of a lot going on, the journal cool admitted to reading your journal. We saw that all happen. I know you were very upset, and that was like a boundary you had set at home was never touch the journal. How did that play out after everything was over?

SPEAKER_01 27:49

That was such a big boundary. I actually didn't believe that he did it. And when I got back to the villa, I saw that my journal had been moved. And I thought it was producers like fucking with me because I was like, there is no way Cole would read my journal. He knows that that is such a like sacred thing to me. And I don't think that he would break that boundary, especially knowing like we are here to work on trust. And so I was convinced that it was not him. I was just like, there is no way. And then when we get to the final bonfire and he tells me that, and I was like crushed.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

You know, like I was just like, dang, I I really was hopeful because I thought too, I was like, if he really did that, they would have shown me that at a bonfire because they knew that that would have sent me over the edge, and they didn't show me that. And so I was like, he didn't do it, they don't even have video footage of it. And then now I see the video footage and he told me at the bonfire, and I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

So have you watched the season? Like, have you and Cole watched the season back?

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Yes, we watched it together.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

And how did that go? Oh, it's been a journey watching it together. Like, did it kind of take you back?

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Yeah, definitely. I mean, it has brought up so much, and we will fight it out, and then we're like, this damn show, you know, and like we move past it, but it's I think it's been like that for everyone, you know? And so it's just like, I mean, what we did was crazy. Like we and it's just like all out there now, and so you just kind of have to like brush it off sometimes and like you know, remember like what's true, what's not true, and keep moving forward.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

Okay, so I have to ask, was Cole as much like was he just like kind of there as much as like the edit made him? Or like did they cut things out to like kind of play up to that? Cause you were like, I feel like he's not doing anything, like really lean into it. So, like, did they kind of lean into that edit, or did they like did he do stuff that like we don't see?

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Actually, I saw him doing even less at my bonfires. Like, for instance, my first bonfire clip that I saw of him was just him sitting in Summit's room basically saying, like, I don't want to be here. And so, but you see him like doing more, which is also why people, you know, I've been getting like all these comments that are like, You were not choosing to see his growth. I was like, I wasn't being shown that.

SPEAKER_03 30:25

My take on him was he kept just repeating what everyone wanted him to say. Like, people would say, Be more vulnerable, you know, open up. And then he would just say, I'm being more vulnerable, I'm opening up, but then like wouldn't say anything. And I was just like, dude, just say a little more.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

I think that's where too, where I was just like getting pretty frustrated was because it it was that, you know, like anytime I would see something, it was like, or like even at the final bonfire, I just felt like it was like everything being spit back out that had been said. Yeah, and so I that's when I was like, I just think that we need more time to really like integrate all of the things that have happened.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

What did enough? Because you said would like you know, you it wasn't enough what he was doing. So what in your mind was going to be enough?

SPEAKER_01 31:18

I think one, I mean, the the trust thing, there were, you know, multiple things throughout the season where I knew that like I was gonna be in the same situation coming back. I think two, it was just like I think you have to really sit with it and understand like what the problems are. And like I I could tell that that wasn't being internalized. It was like, let me get to the next day, let me just get through this instead of like really like trying to fix what the problems were or even uh really understanding what the hurt was that had been in the relationship, what the cycle is that we were in.

SPEAKER_00 31:56

My question is, is that is that Cole like even at home where he like doesn't really like to like sit with things and like really think about it and like dig deep? Or do you feel like he was getting like really camera shy and he just like couldn't open up because he was on a TV show?

SPEAKER_01 32:15

I think that was Cole leading up to the show. I think that since being back, um, I think you know he's he's really opened up a lot more and I think he's you know really put in a lot of work and I'm like really proud of us and him, you know, and I I like see him and I see like makes me emotional, but I like see his effort, you know, and like I know that we're both trying, you know, and it's hard and I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

I'm just like we're both just like doing our best right now.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

Yeah. Well, and I think that's like all you really wanted was to like see him put in that effort and see him trying. Cause that's all that that's really all any of us really want is to just see that somebody's trying of like what you're asking them to do, you know?

SPEAKER_02 33:12

Yeah, and like understanding, which I think you know, we're still we're still working, but uh we're getting, you know, I think that I think that like strides are being made, so yeah. That's good. That's good. You guys are so cute together. Oh thank you.

SPEAKER_03 33:30

And I mean, if you two can make it through this, you guys can make it through anything. It's so true. I was literally thinking that this morning, like taking a step back is just normal people, like this is an insane thing for you two to do. And I can't imagine right now just the hate that you're getting from so many people, and just you constantly feel like you know, feel like garbage just because of things people say, and and also then having to go and relive everything again that's already happened in the past, and now all comes back up, it's that's a lot.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

And you have to relive not only what happened, but the version that was put out there. They do their best to, you know, show all these things, but it's just there's so much, you know, missing and just flipped, and you know, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

So, how did the reunion go filming it?

SPEAKER_01 34:25

It was good, like it really was. I feel like, you know, you'll see sides of people that you didn't think that you'll see, like Jack, you know, you'll see a side of him that's just like really vulnerable. And um, you know, I think everyone at the end of the day, like we don't want to bash one another. We all want to support each other, and that's just that's kind of the dynamic of it.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

I do think that's like really respectable because I don't know why I'm I'm always going back to Love Island, but these people will get off and they will just like sling mud at each other. And I'm like, I mean, I love it because I'm a viewer and I love all the tea, but I do think it's like very respectable that you guys kind of are like, we did this together, like you all have each other's back.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

100% we do. And you know, I think like I did not realize how mean the internet was at all. Like brutal. And I'm just like, I mean, I would just never go comment or DM like nasty things to people. Like, what what are you doing with your life? But anyway, um, it's just been eye-opening. And so I think we're just like, you know what? If these outside opinions want to do that, the least we can do is have each other's back.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:51

And I feel like that'd be tough because I don't know. So background on Amy's family, they're they have three sisters and they all do the social media influencing thing. They've been doing it for a long, long time. And so they've grown into like the amount of hate that they get, right? So it's been slow, like, and so they kind of they know how to deal with it. I couldn't imagine going on a show like this, and then all of a sudden it's like to level 10, and for some of the worst moments of their entire life that they're then having to relive and people just criticizing left and right. Like, oh, that's rough.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

What makes it so hard is like, okay, if I would have gone on there and cheated, give it to me. Like, give me the hate, but like really, it it was so hard because I went on there and was shown that things weren't gonna be different, and I was just choosing like my mental health and peace and taking space. And it's like, damn, like that's what I get for you know, the edit that I got and choosing myself, and it's just like please chill.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

Yeah, yeah, for real. But you I don't know. I thought you did a great job and and Cole as well. I mean, and it's cool that you guys are all staying pretty close. Hopefully, this will all be in the past, you know, in the next couple weeks.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

So yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

All right, Scarlet. So now we're gonna put you to work on Legally Friends. We always have a segment called Judge and Jury, where our listeners write in about their real relationships and family dilemmas, and then we give our verdicts. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

I was actually gonna do one about Megan and I today, which Megan's my wife.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:27

Should I do it? Or should I give you write it? Okay, we'll do mine.

SPEAKER_00 37:30

I'll do you.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

So we were talking about this because I'm in business school right now, so I'm not, I don't have typically have like a job about to start soon. I always work from home, so I've never really worked in the office too much. And my next job, I will be in the office. And so we were talking about like what's the acceptable thing to do with like a female coworker? Could I go have lunch with her during the day? Is that if it's just her and I? Or if she invites me to go to dinner, is that bad? Should I not be able to go with just her and I? And or if she's like senior than me, should I still go? So the big dilem dilemma is what is the boundary you should set within your couple, like within your relationship with female co-workers or co-workers of the opposite sex? What are you guys' thoughts?

SPEAKER_01 38:21

I feel like I feel like there it could be so different depending on like the relationship and the dynamic of the coworker. I feel like lunch could be totally fine. I feel like starting to go to dinners together, if it's just you two, that's kind of weird.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

And like kind of like, maybe what's the point? Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I think going to lunch, I don't really think that's an issue. Dinner just seems like a little more intimate to me. And so if it's just the two of you, I would be like, oh, and like as a girl, I will, and also I've never worked in corporate America, so like what the F do I know? But like I would feel so uncomfortable if like my boss who's a man was like, hey, let's go to dinner, just us two. You have to like do the swap. So like if it's like a senior, if it's your senior boss and she's like, hey, Zach, come to dinner. Like, would it be okay if a man did that to a woman? And the answer would always be no. Go to lunch or go with your whole team, don't just have it be the two of you.

SPEAKER_03 39:29

My brain with the dinner is like, for example, I'll be working like at least till sometimes at least till midnight, and sometimes like one or two a.m. So like I'll be eating dinner in the office. And so it's like, oh, we're just gonna run down and grab dinner. And trust me, I agree with you. I'm just saying some of what people might think. But it's like, okay, we're we're together, we'll just go grab dinner, it'll be fine, and we'll come back to the office and work. Like, you know, that's like not as crazy. Maybe she's just like on my team that I'm working on.

SPEAKER_00 40:00

No, I think if you're gonna do that, if you're gonna be in the office like that late, if it's like carry out and like you guys are like door dashing food to your office, and like you're like in the conference room or whatever wherever you are, like I think that's different. But like going to like a nice restaurant, like I think that's weird. Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

No, I agree, I agree, and also the right answer for me is whatever Megan says, like whatever rounder she sets, like I'm gonna follow. And also unfortunately, you hear a lot of stories where people start things in the office.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

And so yeah, very, very often.

SPEAKER_03 40:38

It's not safe, but anyway, so that's the end of our episode. Um, Scarlett, thank you so much for coming on. That was a lot of fun. It was great to hear your perspective.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

So fun.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

We loved thanks so much.

SPEAKER_03 40:50

Yeah, we loved watching you on Temptation Island.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

Um, yeah, we can't wait for the I'm like so excited for the reunion. Yes, hold on tight.

SPEAKER_03 41:00

But everyone go follow Scarlett on Instagram. Anything else that you have coming up?

SPEAKER_01 41:03

I'm working with people on their personal brands. So if anyone wants to start building their personal brand, I have like a whole one on one section that they can do. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

Also, we might need to come to you to help us with the legally friends brand because I feel like you know, maybe you could help with us.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

But yeah, for sure. We'd be happy to. All right.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

Sounds good. Thanks. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 41:25

Bye.